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by nikhizzle26 days ago |
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upvoteby HerbManic26 days ago|
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This is a great long term strategy despite what the share holders would want to believe. If you increase efficiency even on lower end devices, you will get people coming back for more. It isn't the sale today, it is the sale tomorrow that matters.
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upvoteby upmostly26 days ago|
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I read this as satire.
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upvoteby NitpickLawyer26 days ago|
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I've been running an M1 Air w/ 8GB for a few years, and it's still working fine.
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upvoteby tomalbrc26 days ago|
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Me too but the latest macOS version has ruined it for me, I had to switch back to a previous version.
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upvoteby manmal26 days ago|
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But how are Neo users dealing with this? It’s a new machine, surely it works with 8GB?
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upvoteby hirvi7426 days ago|
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My Neo runs like a sowing machine with 8GBs. So well that I honestly cannot think of any instances where I have felt the system slowdown. I use the device appropriately though -- I'm not trying to run SOTA LLMs locally or anything. For web browsing, light programming, and an iPad replacement, the Neo has exceeded my expectations. Compared to my M4 Mini, I honestly cannot tell a difference.
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upvoteby mamonoleechi26 days ago|
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can you still go online with it? do you have access to security updates?
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upvoteby andsoitis26 days ago|
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Apple provides security updates for the current and two prior versions of macOS. Occasionally, critical updates for older versions.
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upvoteby lifestyleguru26 days ago|
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Better performance will be achieved by adding more whitespaces and increasing the radius of rounded corners.
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upvoteby jorisw26 days ago|
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Because
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upvoteby szmarczak26 days ago|
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Apple? Sure. What about other developers? Firefox, Chrome already use gigabytes of RAM.
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upvoteby astrange26 days ago|
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It's the websites that use that RAM, not the browsers.

(Often the ads on the websites.)

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upvoteby stingraycharles26 days ago|
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And it’s the applications using web browsers as their UI kit that are the worst offenders in my experience.
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upvoteby nickjj26 days ago|
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Browsers still have a lot of memory usage on their own.

I am running Arch Linux here. When I boot my machine into a full desktop environment it uses 1.1 GB of memory total, for everything.

If I open Firefox, it in itself uses about 1.3 GB to have Firefox open with just HackerNews in 1 tab. I have no extensions except uBlock Origin.

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upvoteby astrange26 days ago|
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Read about:memory then.
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upvoteby szmarczak26 days ago|
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No, it's the browsers. Check how much memory they commit and how much is actually resident. Firefox often commits 2x more memory than it is actually using.
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upvoteby clumsysmurf26 days ago|
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I disagree, there is low-hanging fruit Firefox is leaving on the table. The main thing that comes to mind is tab unloading. They don't unload tabs automatically like chrome can.

I was pleasantly surprised at the tab unloading settings under "memory saver" in ungoogled-chromium.

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upvoteby Jap2-026 days ago|
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Firefox has been unloading tabs for several months or so (at least on nightly).
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upvoteby Dunedan26 days ago|
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Firefox unloads tabs under memory pressure since more than 4 years: https://hacks.mozilla.org/2021/10/tab-unloading-in-firefox-9...
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upvoteby clumsysmurf26 days ago|
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It is a naive and suboptimal implementation, they even describe it in the link you posted

"We have now approached the problem again by refining our low-memory detection and tab selection algorithm and narrowing the action to the case where we are sure we’re providing a user benefit: if the browser is about to crash."

I would prefer FF to be more proactive in unloading tabs way before "its about to crash" to keep system level memory pressure lower. Firefox is the main memory hog on my M1 mac.

Chrome can do this, there is no reason we should be stuck with "manual tab unload" and "unload when the browser is about to crash".

I am using an extension, but that just reinforces the argument: they could be doing much more here.

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upvoteby intelkishan25 days ago|
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Which extension are you using in Firefox for memory unloading?
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upvoteby drooopy26 days ago|
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I believe that Firefox does it but not as frequently as Chrome does, but don't quote me on it. However, I am using a "tab suspender" addon on firefox to control how fast the unloading happens on tabs that are not active.
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upvoteby clumsysmurf26 days ago|
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Indeed, I am using something similar "auto tab discard".
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upvoteby bombcar26 days ago|
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Suddenly Safari can surge ahead again!
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upvoteby replygirl26 days ago|
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welcome to the rust community
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upvoteby tardedmeme26 days ago|
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Fortunately, Apple devices only run approved software. Google will be forced to optimize memory or become unavailable on those devices.
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upvoteby jorisw26 days ago|
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Signed software. Not approved software. Mac apps can be installed after being downloaded from the web.

And as if Apple would ever block/pull/disapprove the world’s most popular browser.

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upvoteby silon4226 days ago|
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Aren't they actually blocking alternative browser engines on IOS still?
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upvoteby exac26 days ago|
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Yes
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upvoteby littlecranky6726 days ago|
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not in the EU
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upvoteby tardedmeme26 days ago|
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also in the EU
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upvoteby cybercatgurrl26 days ago|
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i wonder if this is the real reason behind the push for the snow leopard like release this year
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upvoteby kotaKat26 days ago|
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Apple also has all that fast flash to swap to. I never notice when I'm swapping. Even a Neo has fast enough flash to handle a little swap, as a treat.
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upvoteby Danox26 days ago|
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You can thank Apple for buying Anobit many years ago…
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upvoteby egorfine26 days ago|
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With no memory balooning device in sight for macOS virtual machines I don't really see Apple moving in that direction.
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upvoteby ashoeafoot26 days ago|
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upvoteby 7e26 days ago|
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They won’t be able to do that for AI models, because they suck at AI.
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