> I get that people want to play games with randos and 13-30 yr old basement dwellers on the internet, but the idea never appealed to me.

When it comes to most competitive games, you're an outlier.

I'm a gamer, and one thing I've learned in my 10+ years reading HN is that there are very few gamers here, and the gamers that are here are a different breed. Significantly less focus on competitive games, more interest in Factorio, and a strong anti-anti-cheat vibe, not to mention pro-Linux. It has certainly created an echo chamber when it comes to gaming-related topics such as anti-cheat.

Excatly, I think for many players gaming together is a social activity and there plenty of ways to deal with asocial participants that don't involve giving up control over your computer.

there should be just an anti-cheat lobby an a no anticheat lobby