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Ironically these are all text-based applications where the actual content on screen is in the order of a few hundred bytes. They've managed to reach a bloat factor of one million.

by Affric26 days ago|

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Tragic

by nwienert26 days ago|

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If you decry bloated web apps and use Chrome on their Mac... there's Safari. It's far more efficient and has a far snappier UI.

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There's also Epiphany web browser for cross-platform desktop support and the Fulguris browser for Android.

It is noticeably faster, but Chrome is the new Internet Explorer in more ways than one, and many web pages don't work in WebKit browsers.

by Oreb26 days ago|

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Posts like this makes me feel like I’m using a different World Wide Web than everybody else. Where are all these pages that don’t work in WebKit browsers?

I use Safari as my main browser, I open Chrome only when I encounter a web site that doesn’t work in Safari. It happens maybe once or twice per year, and half of the time, it turns out that it doesn’t work in Chrome either.

by ttoinou26 days ago|

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Chrome is the most advanced browsers on each platform. For example I have hundreds of tabs And chrome is the best at saving up RAM in the backgrouns

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It's just closing the older tabs and re-rendering them from cache, when returned to. WebKit does the same thing.

by ben-schaaf26 days ago|

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Apple is no stranger to using a web browser for basic OS functionality. Several pages in the settings app are actually WebKit, source: https://blog.jim-nielsen.com/2022/inspecting-web-views-in-ma...

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That reminds me of Microsoft's Active Desktop in Windows 98, when the desktop had widgets that were web pages and would show webpage-related errors when something went wrong. We've really gone full circle over the last three decades.

by throwaway2744826 days ago|

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It's not so much "full circle" as we never came up with a better way to render general purpose rich text content than html/css to begin with

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It's not really using it for much text, though. It's mostly buttons and controls, which GDI, QuickDraw, and Motif did much better back then and newer toolkits like GTK, Tk, wxWidgets, DWM, Cocoa, etc are great at today.

by throwaway2744826 days ago|

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> It's not really using it for much text, though.

That's exactly the opposite of my perception—for instance, it's been used to render help/support databases on my Mac for at least twenty years.

by tencentshill26 days ago|

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Is that why settings search has been broken for years across iOS and macOS?

by throwaway2744826 days ago|

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Web browsers come preinstalled and come embedded throughout the os.

But, webkit is much better than chrome in memory usage. If only we could force slack and vs code to use the engine better suited for the job.

by berbec26 days ago|

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Isn't Slack just mIRC with a skin? /s

by sho_hn26 days ago|

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I occasionally port software I make to MacOS, while mainly being a Linux user, and I settled on a base model, 8 GB M2 Mac Mini for this as well. If it's zippy there, it'll be zippy on the larger models.

On the PC/Linux side I keep an old thermally-constrained i5 Sony Vaio ultrabook with a lowly 4 GB from 2015 around for the same reason.

The main dev box is a Ryzen 9950X3D/128 GB monster, so it's a bit of a difference :)

by nicce26 days ago|

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Meanwhile GitHub tab in Firefox/Chrome eats 6GB RAM alone.

by DANmode26 days ago|

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GitHub, GitHub…where else have I seen that name recently?

by himata411326 days ago|