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by torginus2 days ago |
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upvoteby herbst2 days ago|
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Within only a few months I see more Chinese Electric cars than Tesla (or us cars generally) on swiss streets.

Depending on what you are looking for they are WAY cheaper than comparable cars.

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upvoteby mikrotikker2 days ago|
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No way I'd trust them. When you crash them or they have a battery fault, the doors lock you inside before the battery catches fire. Many videos of this happening inside China with one recent event in the West.
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upvoteby motorest2 days ago|
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> No way I'd trust them. When you crash them or they have a battery fault, the doors lock you inside before the battery catches fire.

This matches reports from Tesla users. The cybertruck is specially prone to this sort of design problems.

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upvoteby EasyMark1 days ago|
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Only cybertrucks I've heard about catching on fire where the ones purposely set on fire. While I'm sure it happens I doubt it's any higher than any other vehicle on the road
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upvoteby DrammBA1 days ago|
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Why is that a common failure mode in a crash? I can't think of a reason or bug that would lead to the doors locking after a crash.
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upvoteby brewdad1 days ago|
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I think it's a well intentioned safety feature that was never fully thought through. Locking the doors in a crash can prevent a passenger from being ejected from a vehicle. However, if there is no reliable way to unlock the door once the acceleration forces have subsided, you've created a death trap.
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upvoteby IrishTechie1 days ago|
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Most cars lock as you start driving, I assume the issue is they’re not unlocking when crashed.
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upvoteby giantrobot1 days ago|
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Fail-safe designs are more expensive because they require redundancies, fully manual linkages, or just non-centralized control.

The Cybertruck went with daisy chained PoE automotive Ethernet variant. The same cables delivering power to subcomponents handle data. Damage/problems in a single component can not only bring down the network but kill power to all the car's subsystems. It means less wiring in the Cybertruck (and lower production expense) at the cost of durability and fail-safety. Someone looked at TokenRing Ethernet and said "yes that is best".

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upvoteby dubcanada2 days ago|
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Are there not similar videos of Tesla, or other electric cars doing the exact same thing?
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upvoteby yakz2 days ago|
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There's a mechanical latch release handle integrated into the doors, but they are very much not meant to be used during normal operation and are designed to be inconspicuous. This seems to cause at least some people to fail to operate them during a fast-paced emergency situation.
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upvoteby beAbU1 days ago|
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Can you share some of those videos here please?
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upvoteby herbst2 days ago|
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That sounds like some kind of tiktok scare lol
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upvoteby 1 days ago|
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upvoteby Sammi2 days ago|
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VW is selling more EVs in Europe than BYD.
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upvoteby herbst2 days ago|
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VW is not an American car maker. There are way more European cars in Switzerland than either Chinese or US. Obviously. Also more Japanese tho
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upvoteby jiehong2 days ago|
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EU import taxes designed to make them less cheap than local cars do that.
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upvoteby kasey_junk2 days ago|
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China has one of the least free trade regimes in the world, their currency controls alone amount to potentially more than Euro tariffs on cars and that’s just one part of their governmental stacking of the deck for their manufacturers.

I think it’s easy to look at the outputs of their industries and compare them extremely favorably to the outputs elsewhere, especially in EV.

But once you start comparing tariff adjusted pricing it gets much trickier much faster.

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upvoteby atombender2 days ago|
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The EU has imposed tariffs and levies on BYD, totaling 27% [1].

[1] https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/companies-markets/chinese-e...

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upvoteby goosejuice1 days ago|
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BYD could slash european prices by quite a bit. They price them competitively to take advantage of the margin. The increase in price compared to their domestic MSRP is pretty wild, 2x in some cases. In a race to the bottom, they will win.
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upvoteby doctorpangloss1 days ago|
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You're right, but comparing Switzerland to America... You need a car to live in 90% of the USA. That said, talking only about specs or prices is pretty reductionist. If anyone on this forum could forecast car sales based on pre-delivery marketing, you know, become a billionaire investor.
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