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> Interesting how they never mention that these are Tesla Megapack 2 XL units

It's a story about California's battery storage. Tesla hasn't built all of that capacity.

For a Tesla (or other battery producer) press release? Sure. For an article about the general phenomenon? Irrelevant to the point that if it were included I'd be suspicious of the article being a plant.

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upvoteby thegreatpeter2 days ago|
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If you google any article about eland it literally says they use tesla batteries that were built here in the US

i think tesla has built MOST of the capacity

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upvoteby delabay2 days ago|
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upvoteby JumpCrisscross2 days ago|
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> By my estimate (GPT5)

Please don't do this.

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upvoteby delabay2 days ago|
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What's your source?
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upvoteby jrflowers2 days ago|
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Are you asking Criscross if they have a source for your statement?
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upvoteby jrflowers2 days ago|
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> By my estimate (GPT5)

You know treating a thing that makes stuff up as a source of truth is the same thing as making stuff up right? You might as well have written By my estimate (as revealed to me in a dream)

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upvoteby Paradigma111 days ago|
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But is he wrong?
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upvoteby JumpCrisscross1 days ago|
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> is he wrong?

Yes.

“Nearly 75 players are active in the CAISO battery storage ecosystem. Top players include EIG Management Company, NextEra Energy, Arevon Energy, Hectate Energy, and Cultivate Power, all of which have eight or more projects underway” [1].

Tesla isn’t yet a player in utility storage. (They’re at the table, but only starting to bid, and they’re more or less politically fucked in America for the time being on that front.$

[1] https://blog.yesenergy.com/yeblog/the-caiso-energy-storage-r...

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upvoteby jrflowers1 days ago|
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I would be more inclined to check and see if someone’s dream revelation was correct than be a human search engine for people that don’t want to use one.
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upvoteby nandomrumber2 days ago|
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Interesting how the only dollar figure mentioned in the article is about money the Trump administration has put up to refurbish coal plants.
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upvoteby hagbard_c2 days ago|
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That information does not fit the narrative so it is left unsaid.
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upvoteby JumpCrisscross2 days ago|
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> That information does not fit the narrative so it is left unsaid

This is a good opportunity to calibrate your sense of truth.

The LA Times is owned by this South African-born immigrant [1]. (Himself the the son of "Chinese immigrant parents who fled China during the Japanese occupation.") He is, like Elon, pro-Trump (after, like Musk, supporting Democrats when they were in power) [2]. And he, like Elon, has censored his publication to reflect his views, including by opposing anti-Musk content [3].

If you're reading an article in the LA Times and, being upset it isn't mentioning Tesla, concluding it's part of an anti-Musk conspiracy, you're dead wrong. But you're probably also wrong about other adjacent hypotheses.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Soon-Shiong

[2] https://www.politico.com/news/2025/05/13/la-times-owner-mane...

[3] https://www.status.news/p/los-angeles-times-patrick-soon-shi...

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upvoteby nandomrumber2 days ago|
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It does mention another battery manufacturer, Spark. Where do they fit in to the narrative?
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upvoteby JumpCrisscross2 days ago|
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> Where do they fit in to the narrative?

What narrative? If you're saying even a pro-Trump pro-Elon newspaper whose owner has a history of weighing in for Musk has a bias against him, you're saying Elon's massively lost not only standing but also sympathy across the aisle.

If that's true, his companies are toast. That doesn't seem to be the case. So maybe revisit the hypothesis when the data reject it.

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upvoteby roman_soldier2 days ago|
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The LA Times famously a left leaning publication and its stories are written and edited by the employees who are likely to be anti Musk, Trump hating woke types. The owner is a business man and will let the editors write for the audience's biases.
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upvoteby Braxton19802 days ago|
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How do you know that's the reason?
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upvoteby JumpCrisscross2 days ago|
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> How do you know that's the reason?

Just noticed that their profile basically taunts that they're a troll [1].

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=hagbard_c

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upvoteby hagbard_c1 days ago|
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If openness equals trolling you're absolutely right but if that is the case it does raise the question whether the site name covers the site content.
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upvoteby Braxton19801 days ago|
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Making a claim without evidence is akin to trolling
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upvoteby hagbard_c21 hours ago|
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If observing a trend and finding behaviour which fits the trend is enough to base a hypothesis on [1] it is certainly enough to mention it here. That 'claim without evidence' is quite silly and can be disproven by anyone by doing a few web searches. Here's what I get as the first 10 results on the query 'site:www.latimes.com Elon Musk', using SearXNG pointed at the usual gaggle of search engines. There are thousands of results like these, #11 on the list was 'Elon Musk is an anti-semite' but it did not make the mark. Do you notice a trend in these first 10 results? If you don't trust my results you can repeat the experiment using whatever search engine you prefer. Take the first X results and mark them as 'positive'/'neutral'/'negative' with regard to their impact on Musk. You can do the same experiment with whatever 'famous person' or 'famous company' or 'popular subject' you want and judge the results. If you're into that newfangled 'AI' thing and trust the results returned by those models you could leave this task to one of those, something the LA Times itself experimented with for a while.

   1: https://www.latimes.com › business › story › 2025-04-28 › elon-musks-companies-face-at-least-2-37-billion-in-potential-federal-penalties-trump-doge-tesla-spacex-blumenthal
   Musk's conflicts: $2.37 billion in possible federal penalties, report says

   Elon Musk and his companies faced at least $2.37 billion in potential federal fines and penalties the day President Trump took office. 


   2: https://www.latimes.com › entertainment-arts › books › story › 2023-09-12 › interview-with-walter-isaacson-about-his-biography-elon-musk
   Inside 'Elon Musk,' Walter Isaacson's billionaire biography

   12 Sept 2023 ... The 688-page opus details Musk's brutal treatment of workers and colleagues, his impulsive business moves and his chaotic romantic life. 


   3: https://www.latimes.com › entertainment-arts › story › 2022-11-02 › column-elon-musks-twitter-and-the-con-of-online-media
   Column: Elon Musk, Twitter and the con of online media

   Elon Musk (pictured after testifying in a Delaware court in 2021) is coming to a realization those who work in traditional media reached years ... 


   4: https://www.latimes.com › business › story › 2025-03-27 › elon-musk-trump-doge-conflicts-of-interest
   These departments investigating Elon Musk have been cut by DOGE ...

   Reuters reported that DOGE cuts eliminated the jobs of employees overseeing Elon Musk's Neuralink company, which is testing a brain implant ... 


   5: https://www.latimes.com › business › story › 2022-11-14 › elon-musk-toxic-boss-timeline
   Is Elon Musk a bad boss? Ask Tesla, SpaceX, Twitter workers

   Elon Musk's track record as a boss is an endless scroll of impulse firings, retribution, tone-deafness on race — and the impregnation of a ... 


   6: https://www.latimes.com › opinion › letters-to-the-editor › story › 2025-03-13 › i-bought-my-tesla-years-before-elon-musk-went-maga-dont-judge-me
   I bought my Tesla years before Elon Musk went MAGA. Don't judge me

   "When did the brand of car I drive become a political statement?" asks a reader who drives a Tesla with 112000 miles on it. 


   7: https://www.latimes.com › opinion › letters-to-the-editor › story › 2025-02-11 › americans-want-fiscal-responsibility-but-no-one-elected-elon-musk
   Americans want fiscal responsibility, but no one elected Elon Musk

   There are legal ways to enact fiscal responsibility. Having an unelected billionaire target federal agencies isn't one of them. 


   8: https://www.latimes.com › opinion › letters-to-the-editor › story › 2025-02-25 › elon-musk-is-any-private-business-nightmare-of-a-ceo
   Elon Musk is any private business' nightmare of a CEO

   Indiscriminately firing nuclear safety workers is the kind of recklessness that would get a CEO fired — but not Elon Musk. 


   9: https://www.latimes.com › business › story › 2025-01-14 › elon-musk-sued-by-sec-over-late-disclosure-of-twitter-stake-in-2022
   Elon Musk sued by SEC over late 2022 disclosure of Twitter stake

   The U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission sued Elon Musk on Tuesday, alleging failure to timely disclose that he bought more than 5% of ... 


   10: https://www.latimes.com › business › story › 2022-05-18 › how-does-elon-musk-get-away-with-it
   Hiltzik: How does Elon Musk get away with breaking the law?

   In his takeover adventure with Twitter, it seems more likely than not that Elon Musk has broken the law. In some respects, his lawbreaking ... 


 [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statistical_hypothesis_test
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