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Oh yeah I get what you’re saying but is that a thing? Like CATL has had lines before that aren’t making a profit?
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It's not a thing; people are just stuck in the 2000s and think that China can't beat the West technologically and therefore must be cheating.
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> people are just stuck in the 2000s and think that China can't beat the West technologically and therefore must be cheating.

We are talking since early 2010 and on. And it's pretty much what everyone says they are: China has been breaking every trade/IP laws/agreements -- forced IP transfer/IP theft, ban foreign competition, illegal state subsidies to overcapacity, etc to get to where they are in the EV battery market.

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They have decent technology (which they stole a decent chunk) and cheat at the same time.. nothing to do with the west feeling insecurity. In fact, the west could benefit from some mobilizing around insecurity
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