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by timr5 hours ago |
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upvoteby mgkimsal5 hours ago|
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> No, there is Github Copilot, the AI agent tool that also has autocomplete, and a chat UI.

When it came out, Github Copilot was an autocomplete tool. That's it. That may be what the OP was originally using. That's what I used... 2 years ago. That they change the capabilities but don't change the name, yet change names on services that don't change capabilities further illustrates the OP's point, I would say.

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upvoteby HarHarVeryFunny5 hours ago|
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To be fair, Github Copilot (itself a horrible name) has followed the same arc as Cursor, from AI-enhanced editor with smart autocomplete, to more of an IDE that now supports agentic "vibe coding" and "vibe editing" as well.

I do agree that conceptually there is a big difference between an editor, even with smart autocomplete, and an agentic coding tool, as typified by Claude Code and other CLI tools, where there is not necessarily any editor involved at all.

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upvoteby almosthere1 hours ago|
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all of these companies are going to follow each other's UX patterns for the rest of time.
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upvoteby georgeven1 hours ago|
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It was actually nearly 5 years ago!
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upvoteby timr5 hours ago|
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That's silly. Gmail is a wildly different product than it was when it launched, but I guess it doesn't count since the name is the same?

Microsoft may or may not have a "problem" with naming, but if you're going to criticize a product, it's always a good starting place to know what you're criticizing.

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upvoteby adastra225 hours ago|
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Gmail is basically the same today as when I signed up for the beta. It’s a mail app.
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upvoteby kortilla5 hours ago|
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Gmail is almost identical today as it was when it first launched. It just has fancier JavaScript
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upvoteby jacquesm5 hours ago|
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GPs point is that it is confusing, I guess point well made?
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upvoteby timr5 hours ago|
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Only if the naming confusion kept them from actually bothering to understand what the product is?
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upvoteby kemotep5 hours ago|
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The confusion is when I say “I have a terrible time using Copilot, I don’t recommend using it” and someone chimes in with how great their experience with Github Copilot is, a completely different product and how I must be “holding it wrong” when that is not the same Copilot. That Microsoft has like 5 different products all using Copilot in the name, even people in this very comment section are only saying “Copilot” so it is hard to know what product they are talking about!
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upvoteby timr5 hours ago|
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I mean, sure. But aside from the fact that everything in AI gets reduced to a single word ("Gemini", "ChatGPT", "Claude") [1], it's clearly not an excuse for misrepresenting the functionality of the product when you're writing a post broadly claiming that their AI products don't work.

Github Copilot is actually a pretty good tool.

[1] Not just AI. This is true for any major software product line, and why subordinate branding exists.

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upvoteby kemotep5 hours ago|
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I specifically mention that my experience is with the Office 365 Copilot and how terrible that is and in online discussions I mention this and then people jump out of the woodwork to talk about how great Github Copilot is so thank you for demonstrating that exact experience I have every time I mention Copilot :)
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upvoteby nananana94 hours ago|
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Naming confusion is a pretty good predictor that it's not worth understanding what the product is.
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upvoteby jacquesm5 hours ago|
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Apparently, so yes.
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upvoteby timr5 hours ago|
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Seems like there's another option.
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upvoteby Retric4 hours ago|
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Yep, don’t use any of the products in the first place.

Leaving Microsoft’s ecosystem a few years ago has been a great productivity boost, saved quite a bit of cash, and dramatically reduced my frustration.

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upvoteby mirekrusin5 hours ago|
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...it gets better:

GitHub Copilot is a service, you can buy subscription from here https://github.com/features/copilot.

GitHub Copilot is available from website https://github.com/copilot together with services like Spark (not available from other places), Spaces, Agents etc.

GitHub Copilot is VSCode extension which you can download at https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=GitHub.c... and use from VSCode.

New version has native "Claude Code" integration for Anthropic models served via GitHub Copilot.

You can also use your own ie. local llama.cpp based provider (if your github copilot subscription has it enabled / allows it at enterprise level).

Github Copilot CLI is available for download here https://github.com/features/copilot/cli and it's command line interface.

Copilot for Pull Requests https://githubnext.com/projects/copilot-for-pull-requests

Copilot Next Edit Suggestion https://githubnext.com/projects/copilot-next-edit-suggestion...

Copilot Workspace https://githubnext.com/projects/copilot-workspace/

Copilot for Docs https://githubnext.com/projects/copilot-for-docs/

Copilot Completions CLI https://githubnext.com/projects/copilot-completions-cli/

Copilot Voice https://githubnext.com/projects/copilot-voice/

GitHub Copilot Radar https://githubnext.com/projects/copilot-radar/

Copilot View https://githubnext.com/projects/copilot-view/

Copilot Labs https://githubnext.com/projects/copilot-labs/

This list doesn't include project names without Copilot in them like "Spark" or "Testpilot" https://githubnext.com/projects/testpilot etc.

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upvoteby eulers_secret3 hours ago|
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Since we're talking about GitHub Copilot I'll lodge my biggest complaint about it here! The context window is stuck at 128k for all models (except maybe Codex): https://github.com/microsoft/vscode/issues/264153 and https://github.com/anomalyco/opencode/issues/5993

This absolutely sucks, especially since tool calling uses tokens really really fast sometimes. Feels like a not-so-gentle nudge to using their 'official' tooling (read: vscode); even though there was a recent announcement about how GHCP works with opencode: https://github.blog/changelog/2026-01-16-github-copilot-now-...

No mention of it being severely gimped by the context limit in that press release, of course (tbf, why would they lol).

However, if you go back to aider, 128K tokens is a lot, same with web chat... not a total killer, but I wouldn't spend my money on that particular service with there being better options!

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upvoteby perryh215 minutes ago|
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This is the first time I've read about this. Thank you. I never noticed because OpenCode just shows you the context window usage as a %.
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upvoteby Octoth0rpe4 hours ago|
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I'm currently using GitHub copilot via Zed and tbh I have no idea which of these this relates to. Perhaps a combination of

> GitHub Copilot is a service

and maybe, the api behind

> GitHub Copilot is VSCode extension

???

What an absolute mess.

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upvoteby 3acctforcom2 hours ago|
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You want a mess?

Put together a nice and clean price list for your friends in the purchasing department.

I dare you.

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upvoteby almosthere1 hours ago|
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Might be a good time to start a Copilot Copilot company that manages all your copilots.
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