OpenClaw uses Opus 4.5, but was written by Codex. Pete Steinberger has been pretty a pretty hardcore Codex fan since he switched off Claude Code back in September-ish. I think he just felt Claude would make a better basis for an assistant even if he doesn’t like working with it on code.
replyWell, even then, that's enormous economic value, given OpenClaw's massive adoption.
replyNot sure if trolling or serious.
replyYes, serious. Even if openclaw is entirely useless (which I didn't think it is), it's still a good idea to harden it and make people's computers safer from attack, no? I don't see anyone objecting to fixing vulnerabilities in Angry Birds.
reply> that's enormous economic value
reply> OpenClaw's massive adoption.
I was talking about those two.
Here's the chain of the thread:
reply>Opus 4.6 uncovers 500 zero-day flaws in open-source code
>Just 100 from the 500 is from OpenClaw created by Opus 4.5
>Well, even then, that's enormous economic value, given OpenClaw's massive adoption.
I'm arguing that because OpenClaw is installed on so many computers, uncovering the vulnerabilities in it offers enormous economic value, as opposed to letting them get exploited by malicious actors. I don't understand why this is controversial.
These people are serious, and delusional. Openclaw hasn't contributed anything to the economy other than burning electricity and probably more interest on delusional folks credit card bills.
replySecurity Advisory: OpenClaw is spilling over to enterprise networks
replyI've literally never heard of OpenClaw until this thread. Had to google what it is.
replyIn other news: tobacco's enormous economic value, given massive adoption of cigarette smoking.
replySorry if it was unclear - I was talking about the economic value of finding the vulnerabilities, not the economic value of openclaw itself.
replyAh, makes sense :)
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