Isn't there a great deal of gaming going on with the car disengaging FSD milliseconds before crashing? Voila, no "full" "self" driving accident; just another human failing [*]!
reply[*] Failing to solve the impossible situation FSD dropped them into, that is.
Nope. NHTSA's criteria for reporting is active-within-30-seconds.
replyhttps://www.nhtsa.gov/laws-regulations/standing-general-orde...
If there's gamesmanship going on, I'd expect the antifan site linked below to have different numbers, but it agrees with the 2 deaths figure for FSD.
Is that the official Tesla stat? I've heard of way more Tesla fatalities than that..
replyThere are a sizeable number of deaths associated with the abuse of Tesla’s adaptive cruise control with lane cantering (publicly marketed as “autopilot”). Such features are commonplace on many new cars and it is unclear whether Tesla is an outlier, because no one is interested in obsessively researching cruise control abuse among other brands.
replyThere are two deaths associated with FSD.
This is absolutely a Musk defender. FSD and Tesla related deaths are much higher.
replyAutopilot is the shitty lane assist. FSD is the SOTA neural net.
replyYour link agrees with me:
> 2 fatalities involving the use of FSD
I don't know what he's on about. Here's a better list:
replyhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Tesla_Autopilot_crashe...
Autopilot is the shitty lane assist. FSD is the SOTA neural net.
replyYour link agrees with me:
> two that NHTSA's Office of Defect Investigations determined as happening during the engagement of Full Self-Driving (FSD) after 2022.
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