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> If we want our respect for democracy to be taken seriously we need to respect democratic outcomes ... even when they are not the ones we prefer.

>> The question is, -- is it a deliberate democratic outcome, or is it an accidental consequence of local zoning codes and city planning?

>> If governments are involved in planning, it's legitimate to use laws and the planning process to try and push these processes out of local minima towards more globally optimal outcome.

In a democracy, government planning is supposed to push the process towards local preferences. It's not supposed to "push these processes...towards more globally optimal outcome," which when decoded means "what you or what some distant technocrat prefers."

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Governments should be working on multi-generational scales. Not "fads" of what people want because they saw it in a movie or they grew up with it.
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> Governments should be working on multi-generational scales. Not "fads" of what people want because they saw it in a movie or they grew up with it.

If the people disagree with you, then you're not talking about democracy, you're talking about "benevolent" authoritarianism ("we know what's good for you, and that's what you're going to get, like it or not").

Just be clear what you're really advocating for.

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Since when is government a democracy? Roman times or something like that? Most? Some? Or at least a few government officials are elected. Pretty sure most are hired.
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When you pan out, walkable neighborhoods are at the multi generational scale — car centric suburbia is the fad.
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