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It was not neglected, it was an functioning store. I doubt someone would do the same with their house, an empty lot is also a concern.

by margalabargala3 hours ago|

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Why do you doubt it? Sounds like the owner didn't care. If it was a house, what would be different?

by strken2 hours ago|

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Spending 7am to 7pm next to a homeless encampment isn't the same as sleeping next to it, or letting your wife and kids sleep next to it.

Although in this instance I think NIMBYism is less useful than having functioning local government, police, and homeless services.

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Because the owner didn't live in his store he could afford not to care.

by Nevermark3 hours ago|

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The fact that the problem happened at a store, didn't make the store itself the problem.

Any more than the problem of loud neighbors, is a problem of having neighbors.

by pandaman3 hours ago|

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It's a problem of people owning non-residential property next to residential. I am against that, not just stores but the comment I responded to asked about stores specifically.

by brailsafe16 minutes ago|

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Seems like this is just an extension of any other dispute, and failure to resolve conflict between neighbors, perhaps due to lack of community cohesion between the store owner and yourself or others. This is the nature of living, and if there are problems, we should have ways to resolve it without crazy blanket rules like no commercial next to residential. The failure is in the reasons become homeless and in responding to people who actively disrupt the peace and intrude, not the existence of a store.

It's not just that it's not a fundamental characteristic of stores, but it's also not a fundamental characteristic of homeless people, it's just a characteristic of these homeless people and this store. Depending on the type of store, I'd grant you that other issues could have arisen, such as rodents, smells, etc.. but also any other neighbor could be hosting parties, smoking near your window, leaving debris around. In some cases, you either need to accept it, adapt, or find somewhere else to live.

I had a neighbor in the burbs growing up that didn't like the way we behaved on our property, or how it looked, and stuck her nose in and intruded frequently, often threatening to call the police for all sorts of absurd reasons.

by oblio2 hours ago|

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If a house near you were abandoned, could you do something about it?

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Perhaps, but how is it relevant? I responded to a question of what are possible downsides of a mom and pop store next to your house.

by danny_codes2 hours ago|

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This seems like a wildly specifically bad outcome.. I’m a bit confused why your city allows this? You can call the cops on owners for noise violations, unsafe conditions, etc, etc.

Having lived in a dense walkable place with plentiful stores mingled with residential housing, I can say I’ve never seen that particular problem before.

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You are not from the US, are you? The government of big cities here is taken over by people who believe the society we have is to be dismantled.

by vjvjvjvjghv2 hours ago|

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I don’t think it’s a common pattern for mom and pop stores to have a homeless camp on their lot.

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Neither do I, yet it's a much higher probability with a commercial property vs residential.

by burkaman1 hours ago|

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I would not like to live like this. I don't believe that relaxed zoning laws would make a situation like this more likely.

by Teever3 hours ago|

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It's unfortunate that you have had that terrible experience and that the legal system in your location failed you.

I'm not sure however that there's anything to indicate that mom and pop stores are especially susceptible to these kinds of outcomes. It sounds more like you got a case of shitty neighbour which is possible whether or not the neighbour is a commercial lot or a small home.

If your negative experience had been with a neighbour living in a private home instead of a neighbour who owned a small business would that change your view around the matter of zoning for small businesses in residential neighbourhoods?

by kipukun3 hours ago|

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You realize homes are also private property right? You can have a shitty neighbor like the one described that is also enabled by the fact that they're in their own home. That doesn't justify what they're doing, but your argument against stores as "private property" doesn't hold water.