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by superze2 hours ago |
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upvoteby ffsm82 hours ago|
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What issue do you have with Django?

This is not a situation where you'll have thousands of people editing the same document, that'd be insane with Django for sure - but at general collaboration tooling with <100 (random number I made up) editing, Django is unlikely gonna be the bottleneck

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upvoteby spwa42 hours ago|
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Does it really need explaining why Office 365/Google Docs cannot be written in Django?
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upvoteby victorbjorklund1 hours ago|
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Would love to hear that explanation why it is IMPOSSIBLE (not that Rust would be faster or use less resources but why it can’t be written)
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upvoteby KingOfCoders1 hours ago|
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What has that to do with the EU?
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upvoteby speedgoose2 hours ago|
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What would you use instead?
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upvoteby spwa42 hours ago|
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Something like this that's proven itself: https://www.figma.com/blog/webassembly-cut-figmas-load-time-...

TLDR: C++, WASM, and some form of GRPC with C++ on the server side as well. Because you need a language that's fast, can contain high complexity and large programs without collapsing (which is a short list of languages) and can work fast for the bits that need speed.

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upvoteby macNchz1 hours ago|
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That article is seemingly all about the perf of the complex frontend app with a custom renderer running in the browser, nothing to do with what’s happening on the server.
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upvoteby speedgoose2 hours ago|
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I’m my opinion, you have to be kinda masochist to choose C++ for this. Web development is hard in C++.

But thanks for answering honestly.

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upvoteby spwa41 hours ago|
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In my opinion one inherent property of languages is how large the largest program is that can be written in those languages. There's languages that work well for short programs. Bash, perl are examples on one end of the spectrum. Then you have things like lisp and Python where the largest programs are a lot larger already, but still hit obvious limits. And then you have the languages that support really large codebases. Java, C++ are ones currently in use.

There's new languages where it's a bit of an open question still where they lie on the spectrum. Go would be one of them. I'd guess somewhere between Python and Java. Javascript I would argue is between perl and python. And Rust ... well ... good question.

An office suite is a gigantic application, which will need feature upon feature upon feature upon feature. If you want it working on the web, I'd propose something like C++ and WASM.

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upvoteby irishcoffee45 minutes ago|
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Wt actually isn’t terrible, with the added benefit of being able to leverage the enormous c/c++ library ecosystem. Also, it can be quite fast if you care for it to be.

Edit: also appears to be based in the eu, how fitting for this thread.

https://www.webtoolkit.eu/wt

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upvoteby innocentoldguy1 hours ago|
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Django is perfectly capable. I'd use Phoenix for its scalability and performance, if it were me, but I've built large-scale projects in Django before, and it worked well.
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upvoteby shimman2 hours ago|
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What an asinine comment, Django is good enough for several billion dollar companies. It's probably good enough to use in a government capacity too.
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upvoteby cbdevidal2 hours ago|
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It really depends on how it’s used. I love Django in certain specific situations. You know that saying though about when you have a hammer, everything looks like a nail…
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