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by toomuchtodo3 hours ago |
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upvoteby swagasaurus-rex3 hours ago|
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can we also blame the DNC for not holding an election for who would run against trump?

Or the DNC for throwing Bernie under the bus in 2016 (he would have beaten trump)?

Maybe the two party system has grown rotten to the core

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upvoteby themacguffinman3 hours ago|
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No, DNC picking a bad candidate should be responsible for a D electoral loss, it is not responsible for Trump's electoral win. A lot of people seem to think only the DNC has agency in elections, only they should be responsible for outcomes.
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upvoteby direwolf203 hours ago|
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You can blame the DNC for all the badness of Harris (the minimum badness you were able to choose in the election). You can't blame the DNC for all the difference between Kamala and Trump. That was entirely up to you.
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upvoteby toomuchtodo3 hours ago|
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No. You had a choice. I voted for Harris (who I do not like as a progressive) instead of chaos and destruction, others had the same choice. To not vote out of protest was a vote for this.

Better luck next time. ~2M voters 55+ age out every year. Can we do better? Remains to be seen.

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upvoteby verdverm1 hours ago|
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1/3 are D and voted Harris

1/3 are R and voted Trump

1/3 are I and voted their wallet

handwavy, but not inaccurate

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upvoteby toomuchtodo1 hours ago|
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If you’re voting for your wallet, I don’t take offense, simply vote for someone with a plan grounded in reality, and at least some history of success. This is not what has happened.

GM prepares for economic downturn: 'It's coming,' CFO says - https://www.detroitnews.com/story/business/autos/general-mot... | https://archive.today/P8WUE - February 5th, 2026

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upvoteby voxl3 hours ago|
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I voted for Bernie in the primary, for Hilary; Biden; and Harris in the general elections. At no point did I think to myself "Now is the time to be an idealist about the DNC, right when we're combating fascism"

The DNC is an embarrassment, the two party system is a democratic disaster, but accelerationists? They're evil.

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upvoteby verdverm3 hours ago|
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That's rather reductionist for such a complex set of circumstances and events that led to the eventual results
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upvoteby bonsai_spool3 hours ago|
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> That's rather reductionist for such a complex set of circumstances and events that led to the eventual results

I think this is usually true, but there hasn't really been a global shock of the sort we had in 2020 or 2008 or 2001.

What would you say are the salient circumstances now?

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upvoteby erxam2 hours ago|
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It's not a shock, it's a natural consequence of the rot continuing its course.

The USA is an empire founded in bloodshed and hatred, and it is only becoming more so as it decays. Until you rewrite what the USA means, this will only continue.

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upvoteby verdverm1 hours ago|
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now is not 2024, when people felt the sting of inflation and the collective trauma of covid

now is still largely the the same, top 2-3 issues are related to money, cultural or societal issues are on the rise and shifting in polls, a welcomed sign

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