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I'm new to webdevelopment and was using Vercel because people told me it was good, but I was unaware that the company supported the genocide. What other similar services there are that you would recommend?
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Railway/Render can easily host Next.js applications

You could also get a VPS from Digital Ocean or Hertzner, run open-source PaaS like Coolify, Dokploy, Caprover, etc.

Digital Ocean has app platform that’s lets you host these applications but more experience than VPS

Sealos has a $7 and $25 plan and work with Next.js

Just a few options. If you’re looking to leave Next.js completely, check out Tanstack Start. It’s by the creator of React-Query (defacto way to handle fetching data in Next.js). Still some rough edges but I think it could overtake Next.js once a bit more mature.

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2nd point resonates with me, how come he wants to cover expenses, while being connected to Israeli PM and Epstein is connected to Israel through Ehud Barak.

Isn't he going to ask for a "favor"?

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Barak and bibi are political enemies (or at least we're when Barack was a relevant political figure) and besides that I haven't seen anything suggesting that his connection with bibi is more than the one meeting that was publicized.
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Do you really think a $30 hetzner host can sustain that level of traffic performantly? Don't get me wrong, I love hetzner, but I would be very surprised if the numbers work out there.
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Isn’t it just serving static content and the content fitting in RAM? If so your laptop can serve it just fine even.
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A laptop would have a hard time serve thousands of people hitting a single endpoint multiple times a day.
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It shouldn't. The issue is that most developers would rather spin up another instance of their server than solve the performance issue in their code, so now it's a common belief that computers are really slow to serve content.

And we are talking about static content. You will be bottlenecked by bandwidth before you are ever bottlenecked by your laptop.

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To be fair, computers are slow if you intentionally rent slow & overpriced ones from really poor-value vendors like cloud providers. For people who started their career in this madness they might be genuinely unaware of how fast modern hardware has become.
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I just fired up a container on my laptop... running on kubernetes... running in a linux VM. It's lightly dynamic (no database or filesystem I/O).

While I've also got enough other stuff running that my 15 min load average is at 4 and I've got 83% RAM used ignoring buffers/caches/otherwise.

I went and grabbed a random benchmarking tool and pointed it at it with 125 concurrent connections.

Sustained an average of 13914 reqs/s. Highest latency was 53.21ms.

If there are 10,000 people online at any given time hitting the API on average once every 3 seconds (which I believe are generous numbers), you'd only be around 3.3k reqs/s, or about 24% of what my laptop could serve even before any sort of caching, CDN, or anything else.

So... if a laptop can't serve that sort of request load, it sounds more like an indictment of the site's software than anything.

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With a 2025 tech stack, yes. With a 2005 tech stack, no. Don't use any containers, no[/limited] server-side dynamic script languages, no microservices or anything like that.

Considering the content is essentially static, this is actually viable. Search functions might be a bit problematic, but that's a solvable problem.

Of course you pay with engineering skills and resources.

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SRE here, Containers are not causing any performance problem.
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Maybe the perception comes from all the Mac and Windows devs having to run a Linux VM to use containers.
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Containers themselves don't, but a lot of the ecosystem structures around them do. Like having reverse proxies (or even just piles of ethernet bridges) in front of everything.

Or if you go ping pong across containers to handle a single request. That will certainly make a laptop unable to handle this load.

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Is there any feasible way to implement search client-side on a database of this scale?

I guess you would need some sort of search term to document id mapping that gets downloaded to the browser but maybe there's something more efficient than trying to figure out what everyone might be searching for in advance?

And how would you do searching for phrases or substrings? I've no idea if that's doable without having a database server-side that has the whole document store to search through.

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there's been demos of using SQLite client-side, with the database hosted in S3, and HTTP range requests used to only fetch the necessary rows for the query.

there might be some piece I'm missing, but the first thing that comes to mind would be using that, possibly with the full-text search extension, to handle searching the metadata.

at that point you'd still be paying S3 egress costs, but I'd be very surprised if it wasn't at least an order of magnitude less expensive than Vercel.

and since it's just static file hosting, it could conceivably be moved to a VPS (or a pair of them) running nginx or Caddy or whatever, if the AWS egress was too pricey.

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Theoretically, just thinking about the problem... You could probably embrace offline first and sync to indexeddb? After that search would become simple to query. Obviously comes with it's own challenges, depending on your user base (e.g. not a good idea if it's only a temporary login etc)
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There are several implementations of backing an Sqlite3 database with a lazy loaded then cached network storage, including multiple that work over HTTP (iirc usually with range requests). Those basically just work.
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No it won't. This is static content we're talking about. The only thing limiting you is your network throughput and maybe disk IO (assuming it doesn't fit in a compressed RAM). Even for an "around the globe roundtrip" latency, we're still talking few hundred msec.

Some cloud products have distorted an entire generation of developers understanding of how services can scale.

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I think it’s more helpful to discuss this in requests per second.

I’d interpret “thousands of people hitting a single endpoint multiple times a day” as something like 10,000 people making ~5 requests per 24 hours. That’s 0.5 requests per second.

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A 6 core server or laptop can easily serve 100K requests per second, so 259B requests per month. 576x more than their current load.
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A laptop from 10 years ago should be able to comfortably serve that. Computers are really really fast. I'm sorry, thousands of users or tens of thousands of requests a day is nothing.
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It all depends of course, but generally no, a laptop could handle that just fine.
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There may be a risk of running into thermal throttling in such a use-case, as laptops are really not designed for sustained loads of any variety. Some deal with it better than others, but few deal with it well.

Part of why this is a problem is that consumer grade NICs often tend to overload quite a lot of work to the CPU that higher end server specced NICs do themselves, as a laptop isn't really expected to have to keep up with 10K concurrent TCP connections.

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Lol yes? It's all reads. If it can all fit in ram, great. Otherwise an SSD will do fine too.
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You could probably serve it from the quad-core ARM64 inside the SSD controller, if you were trying "for the lulz".
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If it's mostly static, just cache it at the http level e.g. cloudflare which I believe wouldn't even charge for 450m requests on the $20 plan at least
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yes

and if it doesn't spawn up another $30 instance and add another RR entry to the dns

serving static content scales horizontally perfectly

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I would use a $100/mo box with a much better CPU and more RAM, but I think the pinch point might be the 1Gbps unmetered networking that Hetzner provide.

They will sell you a 10Gbps uplink however, with (very reasonably priced) metered bandwidth.

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For sure, even cheaper if you cache effectively.
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No . Hetzner would terminate your server as you are not a profitable customer.
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A profitable customer? How would Hetzner know if you're profitable or not?

I've hosted side projects on Hetzner for years and have never experienced anything like that. Do you have any references of projects to which it happened?

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Because you are using an incredibly large amount of bandwidth for €30 a month.

They offer unlimited bandwidth with their dedicated servers under a “fair usage” policy.

The bandwidth costs would be higher than what you pay monthly, so they would simply drop you.

You are probably using very little bandwidth, so it doesn’t matter in your case.

However, I assume Jmail consumes a very large amount of bandwidth.

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We handle 200x their request load on two Hetzner servers.
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I have heard of hetzner terminating customer relationships if too many legal complaints are filed against your VPSes.

But not because of being "not a profitable customer". Mind sharing some links here?

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I am not sure how one even gets 250TB/mo through a 1Gbps link. In any case, completely saturating your networking for the full month is outside most people's definition of "fair use".
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Yeah but they still advertise with unlimited traffic. "All root servers have a dedicated 1 GBit uplink by default and with it unlimited traffic" https://docs.hetzner.com/robot/general/traffic/
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Even before the Vercel CEO supporting a genocidal maniac. Vercel as a platform has been silently giving open source projects a "fuck you, pay me" when it comes to renewing benefits.

Have seen it happen to smaller projects and even pointed it out when Vercel took static sites down.

So they have always had a bad rep in my opinion.

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> Ordinary people are not thinking about Israel

roughly 47 percent of a recent US survey think supporting Israel is in the national interest of the United States, while 41 percent disagree. only 12 percent didn't offer an opinion. that's quite a lot of potential customers you're detracting when making a stupid political statement, especially taking a photo with a leader whom 49% of people "have an unfavorable opinion" of

source: https://poll.qu.edu/poll-release?releaseid=3932

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"In 2025, global anti-Israel and pro-Palestine demonstrations intensified, with ACLED recording more than 49,000 protests across 133 countries. Public sentiment shifted significantly, particularly following Israel's interception of a humanitarian flotilla in October 2025. Largest Global Mobilisations

Bangladesh: On 12 April 2025, Dhaka hosted what was described as the largest pro-Palestine protest in history, with an estimated 1,000,000 participants at Suhrawardy Udyan.

Italy: Between 3 and 5 October 2025, an estimated 2.3 to 3 million people participated in nationwide strikes and marches, marking the highest level of European mobilization during the conflict.

Spain: Over 1,000,000 people filled the streets of Madrid, Barcelona, and other cities in early October to support the "Sumud Flotilla" and demand an arms embargo.

Australia: Organisers estimated that over 300,000 to 350,000 people participated in nationwide rallies on 24 August 2025, following diplomatic tensions between the Australian and Israeli governments.

Netherlands: Approximately 250,000 people marched in Amsterdam’s "Red Line" protest in October, the third such major rally in as many months. "

I'm fully aware of my Jewish brothers and sisters who stand shoulder to shoulder with me against the current Israeli actions ... but, fuck Israel ... and all who support their current stance.

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Those are all very small numbers in the context of the actual electorates, and supports the claim that it is the same small group of activists obsessed over Israel, and not a widespread “community” concern.
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Get real. Even the US right and much of MAGA hate Israel now. Not because they love Palestine, but because they hate Israel sucking away US taxpayer money to slaughter women and children and bring them nothing but hassle.

Frankly, watching Israel has been the closest we've come to having a petri dish to understand how Nazi'ism developed and rose. I have a better understanding now of how the Hitler Youth developed, and how cultural blindness, manipulation, nationalistic obsessives and ideologues enable a cancer to spread among its politics leading to full blown Nazism. I have a better understanding of all of that from watching the current Israeli state and reading about it's history.

It's a disgusting tale and shouldn't have been funded by US taxpayers.

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$50k and €30 are of the same order of magnitude.
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This is offtopic honestly, but I'm curious if I've been using this phrase wrong for my whole life. Doesn't "order of magnitude" refer to steps of powers of ten?

$50000 vs €30. (or €42066.30 vs €30 if I normalize the currency) 5x10^4 vs 3x10^1.

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You have it right, perhaps the original poster was referring to it in a more colloquial manner, in the sense that against 200 million in revenue, 50,000 and 30 are in the same ballpark?
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I took it as a joke about the USD/EUR exchange rate ;)
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> in the sense that against 200 million in revenue, 50,000 and 30 are in the same ballpark

I don't understand how those are in the same ballpark? I thought saying something is in the same ballpark suggested that they are similar in scale, and the implication is that little-leauge does not play in the same ballpark as a NBA team. They are in the same category (baseball), but not at all the same level.

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At a big enough scale, previously large differences are effectively 0.

50k/mo is 600,000/yr vs 360/yr at 30/mo. Thats existential for a 1MM/yr company. Neither register on a balance sheet for a 1B/yr company. They are both closer to 0 than being a major cost.

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But saying that 200 million and 30 are in the same ballpark is not true in 99.99% of contexts.

Even 50k and 30 I would not say are in the same ballpark. I've worked for major corps and of course a cost saving of 50k/month would not register for the overall company but it probably would for my team. A saving of 30/month is probably not worth spending any considerable amount of time on in most non-personal contexts.

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