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I think it is because of the Chinese new year. The Chinese labs like to publish their models arround the Chinese new year, and the US labs do not want to let a DeepSeek R1 (20 January 2025) impact event happen again, so i guess they publish models that are more capable then what they imagine Chinese labs are yet capable of producing.
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Singularity or just Chinese New Year?
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The Singularity will occur on a Tuesday, during Chinese New Year
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Please use the term “Lunar New Year” instead of “Chinese New Year,” as the lunar calendar is a respected tradition in many Asian countries. For example, both California and New York use the term “Lunar New Year” in their legislation.
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For another example, Singapore, one of the "many Asian countries" you mentioned, list "Chinese New Year" as the official name on government websites. [0] Also note that both California and New York is not located in Asia.

And don't get me started with "Lunar New Year? What Lunar New Year? Islamic Lunar New Year? Jewish Lunar New Year? CHINESE Lunar New Year?".

[0] https://www.mom.gov.sg/employment-practices/public-holidays

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“Lunar New Year” is vague when referring to the holiday as observed by Chinese labs in China. Chinese people don’t call it Lunar New Year or Chinese New Year anyways. They call it Spring Festival (春节).

As it turns out, people in China don’t name their holidays based off of what the laws of New York or California say.

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I didn't expect language policing has reached such level. This is specifically related to China and DeepSeek who celebrates Chinese new year. Do you demand all Chinese to say happy luner new year to each other?
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"Happy Holidays" comes to the diaspora
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Happy Lunar Holidays to you!
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"Lunar New Year" is perhaps over-general, since there are non-Asian lunar calendars, such as the Hebrew and Islamic calendars.

That said, "Lunar New Year" is probably as good a compromise as any, since we have other names for the Hebrew and Islamic New Years.

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This all seems like a plot to get everyone worshipping the Roman goddess Luna.
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But they're Chinese companies specifically, in this case
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Where do all of those Asian countries have that tradition from?

Have you ever had a Polish Sausage? Did it make you Polish?

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I'm having trouble just keeping track of all these different types of models.

Is "Gemini 3 Deep Think" even technically a model? From what I've gathered, it is built on top of Gemini 3 Pro, and appears to be adding specific thinking capabilities, more akin to adding subagents than a truly new foundational model like Opus 4.6.

Also, I don't understand the comments about Google being behind in agentic workflows. I know that the typical use of, say, Claude Code feels agentic, but also a lot of folks are using separate agent harnesses like OpenClaw anyway. You could just as easily plug Gemini 3 Pro into OpenClaw as you can Opus, right?

Can someone help me understand these distinctions? Very confused, especially regarding the agent terminology. Much appreciated!

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The term “model” is one of those super overloaded terms. Depending on the conversation it can mean:

- a product (most accurate here imo)

- a specific set of weights in a neural net

- a general architecture or family of architectures (BERT models)

So while you could argue this is a “model” in the broadest sense of the term, it’s probably more descriptive to call it a product. Similarly we call LLMs “language” models even if they can do a lot more than that, for example draw images.

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> Also, I don't understand the comments about Google being behind in agentic workflows.

It has to do with how the model is RL'd. It's not that Gemini can't be used with various agentic harnesses, like open code or open claw or theoretically even claude code. It's just that the model is trained less effectively to work with those harnesses, so it produces worse results.

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There are hints this is a preview to Gemini 3.1.
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Fast takeoff.
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There's more compute now than before.
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Anthropic took the day off to do a $30B raise at a $380B valuation.
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Most ridiculous valuation in the history of markets. Cant wait to watch these compsnies crash snd burn when people give up on the slot machine.
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As usual don't take financial advice from HN folks!
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WeWork almost IPO’s at $50bn. It was also a nice crash and burn.
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Why? They had $10+ billion arr run rate in 2025 trippeled from 2024 I mean 30x is a lot but also not insane at that growth rate right?
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It's a 13 days old account with IHateAI handle.
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They are using the current models to help develop even smarter models. Each generation of model can help even more for the next generation.

I don’t think it’s hyperbolic to say that we may be only a single digit number of years away from the singularity.

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I must be holding these things wrong because I'm not seeing any of these God like superpowers everyone seem to enjoy.
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Who said they’re godlike today?

And yes, you are probably using them wrong if you don’t find them useful or don’t see the rapid improvement.

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Let's come back in 12 months and discuss your singularity then. Meanwhile I spent like $30 on a few models as a test yesterday, none of them could tell me why my goroutine system was failing, even though it was painfully obvious (I purposefully added one too many wg.Done), gemini, codex, minimax 2.5, they all shat the bed on a very obvious problem but I am to believe they're 98% conscious and better at logic and math than 99% of the population.

Every new model release neckbeards come out of the basements to tell us the singularity will be there in two more weeks

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You are fighting straw men here. Any further discussion would be pointless.
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Of course, n-1 wasn't good enough but n+1 will be singularity, just two more weeks my dudes, two more week... rinse and repeat ad infinitum
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Like I said, pointless strawmanning.

You’ve once again made up a claim of “two more weeks” to argue against even though it’s not something anybody here has claimed.

If you feel the need to make an argument against claims that exist only in your head, maybe you can also keep the argument only in your head too?

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On the flip side, twice I put about 800K tokens of code into Gemini and asked it to find why my code was misbehaving, and it found it.

The logic related to the bug wasn't all contained in one file, but across several files.

This was Gemini 2.5 Pro. A whole generation old.

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Post the file here
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Meanwhile I've been using Kimi K2T and K2.5 to work in Go with a fair amount of concurrency and it's been able to write concurrent Go code and debug issues with goroutines equal to, and much more complex then, your issue, involving race conditions and more, just fine.

Projects:

https://github.com/alexispurslane/oxen

https://github.com/alexispurslane/org-lsp

(Note that org-lsp has a much improved version of the same indexer as oxen; the first was purely my design, the second I decided to listen to K2.5 more and it found a bunch of potential race conditions and fixed them)

shrug

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Out of curiosity, did you give a test for them to validate the code?

I had a test failing because I introduced a silly comparison bug (> instead of <), and claude 4.6 opus figured out it wasn't the test the problem, but the code and fixed the bug (which I had missed).

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There was a test and a very useful golang error that literally explain what was wrong. The model tried implementing a solution, failed and when I pointed out the error most of them just rolled back the "solution"
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Ok, thanks for the info
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> I don’t think it’s hyperbolic to say that we may be only a single digit number of years away from the singularity.

We're back to singularity hype, but let's be real: benchmark gains are meaningless in the real world when the primary focus has shifted to gaming the metrics

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Ok, here I am living in the real world finding these models have advanced incredibly over the past year for coding.

Benchmaxxing exists, but that’s not the only data point. It’s pretty clear that models are improving quickly in many domains in real world usage.

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Yet even Anthropic has shown the downsides to using them. I don't think it is a given that improvements in models scores and capabilities + being able to churn code as fast as we can will lead us to a singularity, we'll need more than that.
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