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by pjmlp6 hours ago |
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upvoteby zozbot23421 minutes ago|
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Rust allows binary libraries with a C ABI. Having safety within any given module is still a big deal, and it's hard to guarantee safety across dynamic modules when the code that's actually loaded can be overridden by a separately-built version.
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upvoteby kibwen5 hours ago|
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I'm not expecting to convince you of this position, but I find it to be a feature, not a bug, that Rust is inherently hostile to companies whose business models rely on tossing closed-source proprietary blobs over the wall. I'm fairly certain that Andrew Kelley would say the same thing about Zig. Give me the source or GTFO.
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upvoteby pjmlp5 hours ago|
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In the end it is a matter of which industries the Rust community sees as relevant to gain adoption, and which ones the community is happy that Rust will never take off.

Do you know one industry that likes very much tossing closed-source proprietary blobs over the wall?

Game studios, and everyone that works in the games industry providing tooling for AAA studios.

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upvoteby LexiMax5 hours ago|
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> Game studios, and everyone that works in the games industry providing tooling for AAA studios.

You know what else is common in the games industry? C# and NDA's.

C# means that game development is no longer a C/C++ monoculture, and if someone can make their engine or middleware usable with C# through an API shim, Native AOT, or some other integration, there are similar paths forward for using Rust, Zig, or whatever else.

NDA's means that making source available isn't as much of a concern. Quite a bit of the modern game development stack is actually source-available, especially when you're talking about game engines.

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upvoteby pjmlp5 hours ago|
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Do you know what C# has and Rust doesn't? A binary distribution package for libraries with a defined ABI.
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upvoteby wolvesechoes2 hours ago|
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> I'm fairly certain that Andrew Kelley would say the same thing about Zig. Give me the source or GTFO.

Thus it will never be even considered outside the tech bubble.

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