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by scheeseman48612 hours ago |
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upvoteby realusername12 hours ago|
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I also disagree with that, I trust my Linux distribution to behave well much more than I trust any Android platform and it doesn't even have much app sandboxing at all.

You can't fix a lack of trust like you have in Android with technical solutions. The flaw in Android is fundamentally a social problem.

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upvoteby strcat4 hours ago|
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There's a massive open source app ecosystem for Android which is far larger than the subset available in F-Droid. Open source does not imply private or trustworthy. Completely trusting applications with access to all your data with no insight in to what they're accessing or sending to services means you wouldn't know if your privacy is being violating anyway.
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upvoteby drnick12 hours ago|
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The (desktop) Linux security model is different. You trust the distro maintainers in the same way you trust the GOS devs, and instead of "app sandboxing" you use user accounts, containers or VMs to protect personal information. The Android security model makes sense in the context of laypeople using mostly commercial malware on the stock OS however.
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upvoteby scheeseman48612 hours ago|
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That reads more as sports team flag wavey thoughts and feelings trust than anything actually backed by objective data.
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upvoteby realusername12 hours ago|
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That's the difference between trusted computing (Linux distribution) and untrusted computing (Android).

If you want something backed by objective data, my phone has an advertising ID built in the OS and my laptop doesn't. My phone had 100s of privacy scandals and my laptop doesn't have one.

I do applaud GrapheneOS don't get me wrong but I have a feeling that they are fighting a losing battle.

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upvoteby strcat4 hours ago|
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There's a huge open source app ecosystem available for Android. The distinction you're trying to draw is inaccurate. Open source apps also very open do privacy invasive things. On Android, people can see that many open source privacy even including Signal include dark patterns such as repeatedly asking for access to contacts when it works without it. On a desktop OS, the apps and services will simply have access to nearly everything by default so you aren't aware of it happening for the most part.

GrapheneOS provides far better privacy and security than a desktop OS. There's no such thing as an advertising ID built into GrapheneOS so it's a strange thing to bring up. There are plenty of privacy invasive things built into desktop operating systems and applications, including open source ones. They nearly entirely lack the ability to protect against apps and services being privacy invasive in the first place. They also have far weaker protection against exploitation.

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