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by franktankbank8 hours ago |
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upvoteby illithid08 hours ago|
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The power to impose tariffs is given to Congress in the Constitution. Exceptions are allowed but in rare and specific situations. The fact that SCOTUS struck it down means the tariffs as imposed were unconstitutional.

You can be for tariffs all you want, I'm not here to argue their efficacy. But you absolutely cannot with any intellectual honesty still be on the fence about whether he abused his power given this ruling.

It is not "flip flopping policy" to break the bounds of your Constitutional power and be shut down by one of the branches meant to check you.

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upvoteby jopsen1 hours ago|
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I don't think the administration cares about the appearance of impropriety.
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upvoteby illithid01 hours ago|
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I'm not sure what this has to do with the Constitutionality of his tariffs or their ability to accomplish the stated goals.
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upvoteby franktankbank7 hours ago|
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It is flip flopping policy as far as it was here one day and struck down the next. That's what matters to people attempting to start something here. I should have stated I was not interested in arguing the actual rule process, you have 6-3 vote from the Supreme Court in your favor.
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upvoteby alex435787 hours ago|
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It was absurd to think this was valid policy in the first place. The IEEPA clearly didn’t delegate unilateral tariff authority to the president, especially on the flimsy basis of a “trade emergency”.

If Trump wanted a durable trade policy, work with the legislative majority to pass a real policy with deliberation - just like they should have done with immigration.

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upvoteby pavlov7 hours ago|
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Almost all legal experts said from the start the Trump’s approach to tariffs was unconstitutional.

So who else could be to blame for the flip-flopping?

The executive is supposed to uphold laws made by Congress, not throw spaghetti at the Supreme Court’s wall and see if it sticks.

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upvoteby fullshark8 hours ago|
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Just because businesses / wall street doesn't like something doesn't mean it's necessarily good for every day Americans. The tariff vision of on-shoring manufacturing and reliving the glory days of the post WW2 era was rooted in fantasy. The US simply cannot compete given its labor costs and actual manufacturing know-how.

Perhaps this is an overdue wakeup call, and a freak out is in order regarding this reality but unconstitutional tariffs alone were never going to solve this problem.

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upvoteby mastax7 hours ago|
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If the US really wanted to make a durable shift to manufacturing, presidential tariffs by fiat aren’t a good strategy anyway. Tariffs could be a small part of that strategy but they should be targeted, not broad, and enacted by congress so businesses have the kind of decades-long stability required to invest in factories that take years to pay off.
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upvoteby expedition327 hours ago|
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I was watching the Olympics. They have these really cool drones that follow the skiers down the slope at 80 kph. Chinese drones...

If only you knew how bad things really are.

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upvoteby interestpiqued8 hours ago|
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The tariffs have been flip flopping all year due to the admin. That’s why it’s not smart for it to be up to executive discretion
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upvoteby pavlov8 hours ago|
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If you don’t think the president did anything wrong, then whose fault is it that those businesses are suffering from flip-flopping policy?
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upvoteby mastax8 hours ago|
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The tariffs have been absolute hell on small businesses and manufacturing businesses of any size.
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upvoteby elAhmo7 hours ago|
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Could you elaborate on this:

> I'm for the tarrifs

What makes you think they are good?

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upvoteby energy1237 hours ago|
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This is the first semblance of policy certainty. The ruling is a good thing for everyone, Republicans and Trump included, even if they're not intelligent enough to understand why.
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upvoteby blackguardx8 hours ago|
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It is almost like the flip-flopping policy was never meant to boost US manufacturing, but to secure kickbacks and deals from big companies and countries to get favored treatment.
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