I thought of the tracking and gate questions, too, when I vibed up an HF torrent service a few nights ago. (Super annoying BTW to have to download the files just to hash the parts, especially when webseeds exist.) Model owners could disable or gate torrents the same way they gate the models, and HF could still measure traffic by .torrent downloads and magnet clicks.
replyIt's a bit like any legalization question -- the black market exists anyway, so a regulatory framework could bring at least some of it into the sunlight.
> Model owners could disable or gate torrents the same way they gate the models, and HF could still measure traffic by .torrent downloads and magnet clicks.
replyBut that'll only stop a small part, anyone could share the infohash and if you're using the dht/magnet without .torrent files or clicks on a website, no one can count those downloads unless they too scrape the dht for peers who are reporting they've completed the download.
> unless they too scrape the dht for peers who are reporting they've completed the download.
replyWhich can be falsified. Head over to your favorite tracker and sort by completed downloads to see what I mean.
Right, but that's already happening today. That's the black-market point.
replymost of the traffic is probably from open weights, just seed those, host private ones as is
replyhow are all the private trackers tracking ratios?
replyWouldn’t it still provide massive benefits if they could convince/coerce their most popular downloaded models to move to torrenting?
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