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Both Google and Facebook have enforced real identity and its not improved the state of peoples comments at all. I don't think anonymity particular changes what many people are willing to say or how they say it, people are just the creature you see and anonymity simple protects them it doesn't change their behaviour all that much.
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I think opt-in ID is great. Services like Discord can require ID because they are private services*. Furthermore, I think that in the future, a majority of people will stay on services with some form of verification, because the anonymous internet is noisy and scary.

The underlying internet should remain anonymous. People should remain able to communicate anonymously with consenting parties, send private DMs and create private group chats, and create their own service with their own form of identity verification.

* All big services are unlikely to require ID without laws, because any that does not will get refugees, or if all big services collaborate, a new service will get all refugees.

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The problem is this is only true for values of "reasonable" that are "unlikely to be viewed in a negative light by my government, job, or family; either now or at any time in the future". The chilling effect is insane. There was a time in living memory when saying "women should be able to vote" was not a popular thing.

I mean, this is _literally the only thing needed_ for the Trump admin to tie real names to people criticizing $whatever. Does anyone want that? Replace "Trump" with "Biden", "AOC", "Newsom", etc. if they're the ones you disagree with.

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> Replace "Trump" with "Biden", "AOC", "Newsom", etc. if they're the ones you disagree with.

Stop trying to reason with fascists.

Everyone in the world knows that the Democrats you named are too ideologically aligned with right-wing hatred to ever leverage the repressive power of the state apparatus in the same way Republicans do.

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Obama carried on where Bush left off. I think Biden was at least marginally better, at the very least I admire him for ripping off the Afghanistan bandaid, but the amount of effort he put onto rolling back executive overreach was minimum if anything.
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You're saying that Biden, AOC, and Newsom are "ideologically aligned with right-wing hatred"? This is not something I've ever heard a human being say. Almost afraid to ask, but where's that coming from?
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Why did AOC stop calling them "concentration camps" when Biden took office?
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> I think people will be more reasonable if they weren't anonymous.

I've seen people post appalling shit on fuckin LinkedIn under their own names.

Strong moderation keeps Internet spaces from devolving into cesspools. People themselves have no shame.

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Same. Also on Facebook and Nextdoor (with real names and addresses).

Real name moderator is a fallacy.

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That's what I believe as well. Anons have turned the internet into an unsafe cesspit. It's the opposite of a "town square."
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Internet anonymity is FAR from something new.
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