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Which is exactly why all people everywhere giving up their privacy will also be ineffective.

Drugs, alcohol, cigarettes, pornography were all illegal for me to access as a kid but I wouldn’t have had any trouble getting any of it.

by sarchertech6 hours ago|

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Maybe at 16, not at 8.

by tsimionescu1 hours ago|

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Many of my school colleagues started smoking around 10-11 years old. All of us had tasted alchol by then, and some of them were definitely drinking the occasional beer. Older kids sometimes brought porn magazines in school and would show younger kids too (still talking about pre-highscool here). Now, this was childhood in Romania in the 1990s and early 2000s, soon after the fall of communsim, so maybe not so applicable everywhere else, but still - I doubt that there is any problem for a resourceful 8-10 year old even today to get some of these things.

by sarchertech2 minutes ago|

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There’s a difference between “saw a playboy once” and having regular or semi regular access to it.

Same goes for alcohol and cigarettes.

In the US, If you had regular access to those things, you had parents who didn’t care.

It’s also not about kids on the margin. The vast majority of 8 year olds in the US have not tried alcohol, drugs, or cigarettes.

I can’t rely speak to post Cold War Romania.

by cgriswald6 hours ago|

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The older kids are often the easy source for the younger kids. At 8 I had already seen a Playboy and knew kids who had seen harder stuff. I could have easily gotten a teenager to get me cigarettes (and drugs, but I didn’t know what those were really). I had also already tasted alcohol. Any of this I could have stolen from any number of places.

At 16 it was easier, but at 8 it wasn’t hard.

by sarchertech4 minutes ago|

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There’s a difference between “saw a playboy once” and having regular or semi regular access to it.

Same goes for alcohol and cigarettes.

If you had regular access to those things you had parents who didn’t care.

It’s also not about kids on the margin. The vast majority of 8 year olds have not tried alcohol, drugs, or cigarettes.

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over 10 years ago, I had an intern from Harvard CS tell me that privacy is irrelevant unless you're doing something that you want to hide. I was gobsmacked that someone would not cherish their privacy but since then I've realized many don't care at all and have the same attitude that "I don't have anything to hide."

by hunterpayne2 hours ago|

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Well that's your mistake right there. You hired someone from Harvard. Unless you are hiring that person to use their connections to market your product, there is no reason to hire someone from Harvard. They just bring bad ideology and STDs from Russian hookers to the table and nobody wants that.

PS This post is partly satire, I will leave it to you as to which part is serious.

by aleph_minus_one6 hours ago|

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> They are resourceful, sneaky and relentless.

... and honest:

- they will honestly tell you that they'd be very happy to see you dead when you impose restrictions upon them (people who are older will of course possibly get into legal trouble for such a statement)

- they will tell they they wish you'd never have given birth to them (or aborted them)

- they will tell you that since they never wanted to be born, they owe you nothing

- ...

by squigz6 hours ago|

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Sounds like a kid in need of psychiatric help.

by aleph_minus_one5 hours ago|

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You barely ever had to deal with pubescent children? :-)

by hunterpayne2 hours ago|

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I raised kids. Never had to deal with anything like what is described. Sounds like someone read some questionable books on parenting, unfortunately followed the bad advice in those books and this is the result.

And this entire thing is about bad parenting. Its always easier to just give the kid a tablet and go back to whatever you were doing. Its always better to actually interact with the kid. That trade-off of time is important because if you mess up when they are young, you spend a lot more time handling issues later on. That time you gained by giving them a tablet will get payed back someday, usually with interest. That's what is happening here.

by squigz5 hours ago|

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I mean, that's really not normal puberty stuff, but... okay.