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by cherryteastain6 hours ago |
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upvoteby john_strinlai6 hours ago|
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>You can also cut yourself with a kitchen knife but nobody proposes banning kitchen knives.

oh nice, i love this game.

you cant carry a kitchen knife that is too long, you cant carry your kitchen knife into a school, you cant brandish your kitchen knife at police, you cant let a small child run around with a kitchen knife...

literally most of what "the state" does is be a "nanny"

(not agreeing or disagreeing with google here, i have no horse in this particular race. but this little knife quip is silly when you think about it for more than 5 seconds)

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upvoteby plorg5 hours ago|
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In this example we still don't require you to register with anyone to buy a knife, get the blessing of some institution to sell knives, or, as in this case, get a certification before you can start making knives.
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upvoteby john_strinlai2 hours ago|
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its crazy that different things, like knives and app stores, have different rules. maybe thats why the quip about the knife sounded super cool but fell apart as an analogy for this scenario when thought about for more than 5 seconds?

the point of my comment was that the state does implement a lot of rules (read: "is a nanny"), despite the claim otherwise.

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upvoteby plorg28 minutes ago|
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Yes, the strawman version of an analogy falls apart if you poke it. You didn't actually engage the analogy at all.
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upvoteby aclindsa5 hours ago|
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I think it's important to consider the intent of those laws, too. They are primarily or even exclusively to prevent you from hurting others with knives. They are not really intended to protect you from cutting yourself in your own home. So I think the parent's comment still holds weight.
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upvoteby InsideOutSanta5 hours ago|
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All of these rules, and yet people still cut themselves and others.
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upvoteby CamperBob26 hours ago|
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you cant buy a kitchen knife that is too long

What?

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upvoteby john_strinlai6 hours ago|
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sorry, should say "carry", not "buy". most states have a maximum length you can carry (4-5.5 inches is common).

although, i would imagine at some length, it becomes a "sword" (even if marketed as a knife) and falls under some other "nanny"-ing. i have not googled that.

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upvoteby mikestew6 hours ago|
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You still have an hour or two to edit your comment. Look in that line of text where you see your user name, click “Edit”.
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upvoteby Cyph0n5 hours ago|
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Doesn’t editing require a karma threshold?
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upvoteby john_strinlai5 hours ago|
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it does not (thankfully!)
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upvoteby mikestew5 hours ago|
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Apostrophe's don't have a karma threshold, either. ;-)
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upvoteby CamperBob25 hours ago|
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As kevin_thibedeau points out elsewhere in the thread, he's not necessarily wrong. In many states and foreign countries it's illegal to carry a large knife in public without a reason and I'm sure purchases are restricted in some places as well. Most people are more or less OK with that, it seems, so there historically hasn't been a lot of pushback.

So, having been given the proverbial inch (or centimeter), those obsessed with banning potentially-dangerous tools are trying to take the next mile (or kilometer): https://theconversation.com/why-stopping-knife-crime-needs-t...

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upvoteby kevin_thibedeau6 hours ago|
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Long knives in the UK are like full auto guns in the rest of the world.
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upvoteby ranger_danger46 minutes ago|
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Laws protect people from being hurt by others, keeping society safe and fair for everyone.
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