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upvoteby pavel_lishin6 hours ago|
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> and as a result even private competition can not emerge.

Demonstrably untrue, if you were to look at taxis, ubers, lyfts, and ... small vans that operate exactly as you describe, in many large cities. (In NYC, I know there exists such a van network in Brooklyn, and near the George Washington Bridge running across the river.)

And besides, buses have advantages that "intelligent routing"-based vans - predictability and reliability. If I need to get somewhere by bus, I know exactly which stop I need to go to, and usually when the bus is scheduled to arrive to pick me up, and also to drop me off.

(Granted, sometimes those times aren't right, but they usually are, most of the time.)

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upvoteby nine_k6 hours ago|
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Confirmed: the van network in Brooklyn exists, a ride still costs $2 (compared to $3 on an MTA bus), the vans / minibuses largely follow popular bus routes, and stop basically anywhere along the route where it is safe, including on a red light.
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upvoteby mothballed6 hours ago|
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I've ridden collectivo type vans in a number of latin america countries (Philippines has same although sometimes in form of jeepnee), they work quite well, you shout 'para' or some such where you need to stop and wave boldly when you need to get on. Much prefer it to a bus, and also since they are privately owned it is very easy to kick assholes off which is one of my biggest gripes with dealing with public transit.
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upvoteby 5o1ecist6 hours ago|
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Your post is confusing.

Smaller vans, transporting several people at once, are also busses. Any and all private competition offering to transport several people at once, would also use vehicles colloquially called busses.

Furthermore has public transport historically never been for the convenience of the people. Instead it provides jobs, increases the flow of money, provides income for The State.

You can read more about the beginnings of public transportation here:

https://www.perplexity.ai/search/hey-hey-can-you-tell-me-who...

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upvoteby banana_sandwich6 hours ago|
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nothing in this comment is rooted in reality
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upvoteby wat100005 hours ago|
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City buses aren't profitable. There's no fare that would cover costs. Your choices aren't to have a subsidized government bus service or have competitive private bus services, your choices are to have a subsidized government bus service or have no bus service.
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upvoteby macintux6 hours ago|
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Sharing a van with strangers is more unpleasant than buses, given the cramped seating.
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upvoteby steanne6 hours ago|
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wouldn't a network of vans require hiring a lot more drivers per passenger than busses need? sounds like a jobs program.
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upvoteby jghn6 hours ago|
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Tell me you don't live in a real city without telling me you don't live in a real city.

Where I live the busses are quite useful and get used by a lot of people.

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upvoteby IAmBroom6 hours ago|
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Don't discount the ability of political extremists to discount even the evidence they see themselves (or reframe it massively), if it conflicts with their agenda.
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