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by edent7 hours ago |
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upvoteby ravioli_fog6 hours ago|
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I personally see plenty of hype but I've also been following the trends and using the tools "on the ground". At least in terms of software these tools are a substantial shift. Will they replace developers? No idea, but their impacts are likely to be felt for a very long time. Their rate of improvement in programming is growing rapidly.

Do feel AI is overall just hype? When did you last try AI tools and what about their use made you conclude they will likely be forgotten or ignored by the mainstream?

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upvoteby edent6 hours ago|
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I spent an hour with Gemini this morning trying to get instructions to compile a common open source tool for an uncommon platform.

It was an hour of pasting in error messages and getting back "Aha! Here's the final change you need to make!"

Underwhelming doesn't even begin to describe it.

But, even if I'm wrong, we were told that COBOL would make programming redundant. Then UML was going to accelerate development. Visual programming would mean no more mistakes.

All of them are in the coding mix somewhere, and I suspect LLMs will be.

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upvoteby ej886 hours ago|
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> write an article dismissing ai

> usage is copy pasting code back and forth with gemini

the jokes write themselves

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upvoteby edent6 hours ago|
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That's the most recent time. But I've bounced around all the LLMs - they're all superficially amazing. But if you understand their output they often wrong in both subtle and catastrophic ways.

As I said, maybe I'm wrong. I hope you have fun using them.

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upvoteby stnmtn1 hours ago|
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Have you tried a coding agent such as claude code or codex?
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upvoteby edent52 minutes ago|
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Yes. And, again, they look amazing and make you feel like you're 10x.

But then I look at the code quality, hideous mistakes, blatant footguns, and misunderstood requirements and realise it is all a sham.

I know, I know. I'm holding it wrong. I need to use another model. I have to write a different Soul.md. I need to have true faith. Just one more pull on the slot machine, that'll fix it.

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upvoteby nozzlegear6 hours ago|
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Unrelated to the conversation but:

> Not everything is written to be insightful. Some things are just written to get them out of my head.

I like that, going to use it as the motivation to get some things out of my own head.

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upvoteby edent6 hours ago|
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Yes! More blogging :-)
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upvoteby JuniperMesos2 hours ago|
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Why do you think that solar+battery technology or MRNA vaccines haven't been written about in excited, hype-filled ways? If a technology is successful, then looking at past accounts of that technology and why it will change the world don't come across to you reading it now as hype, they come across as a description of something normal about the world.
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upvoteby casey24 hours ago|
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The web? GLP-1s? 5G? The newton was mega-hyped, failed but Apple came back with the iPhone. All the dot com failures that eventually became viable businesses (so viable in-fact that sfgate has to reach back 26 years to write their stinkpiece [1])

Hype is often early, in 10-20 years we'll start seeing the value as the rest of the world catches up

https://www.sfgate.com/food/article/rise-fall-bay-area-start...

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