> They've blown up 11 Starships without any of them making it to orbit.
replyThey purposely were not trying for orbit from my understanding. The last one did orbit the earth at suborbital heights and release satellites. It did seem to do what they wanted it to do, it wasn't a failure.
Not only were they not trying to reach orbit, they are specifically trying to do risky things that they can learn from. It's not exactly destructive testing because they hope to succeed, but it's close.
replyThat just seems like a huge waste of money
replyEach Expendable Starship Super Heavy launched costs less than a single engine on the Artemis program.
replyEvery time you see a Starship launch what you aren't seeing is manufacturing processes corrected, issues in launch protocols and field issues resolved. All the little things that build up to make your system reliable. Do you want the doctor who has done a hundred successful surgeries, or the one who has done one or two but spent a long time in school watching videos.
The big difference is in the end, Starship gets built faster, costs much less, and can do more. It's not even close.
You can't compare costs for a rocket that doesn't work yet. It's fictional. As I said in my post, if we are comparing fictional rockets then I have a $1 rocket that can fly to Jupiter.
replyOf course you can. It wasn’t fictional when Superheavy flew back and was caught, was it? It costed real money, not fictional. What kind of mental gymnastics are you doing?
replyUntil it actually works every dollar is waste.
replyDo you think that about cancer research, or antibiotic research, or development of the JWT?
replyIt wouldn't if you were scheduled to fly on it.
replyBy the time people are scheduled to fly on it, it will have launched 100s of times and SLS wilk have launched once. Which so you want to ride on?
replyElon Musk's net worth now (sadly) near a trillion dollars... :/
replyEasy not to fail when you are purposefully not trying to succeed
replyI doubt they set out to launch eleven times without reaching orbit.
replyThey very explicitly were not setting out for orbit for most of them.
replyYes, but if you asked someone at SpaceX before flight 1 where they would be by flight 11, I doubt they would have been happy about the reality.
replyAnd?
replyNot a single one of them had reaching stable orbit in the flight plan.
replyThis is why NASA can never adopt the SpaceX philosophy. People don't understand the concept of test fight.
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