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by cogman1012 hours ago |
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upvoteby walletdrainer9 hours ago|
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>I'd pick North Korea over Ukraine right now because it's a lot easier to live in a dictatorship than an active war zone

You can live a perfectly normal life in Kiev. It’s not exactly an active war zone, you see luxury cars worth hundreds of thousands of dollars on every corner. You can buy bottles of Petrus in 24 hour supermarkets and eat decent food at countless fancy restaurants.

Goodwine in Kiev will also put US luxury grocers to shame. Ukraine might be at war, but the quality of life is hardly bad.

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upvoteby JumpCrisscross12 hours ago|
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> I'd pick North Korea over Ukraine right now because it's a lot easier to live in a dictatorship than an active war zone

To each their own. I wouldn't. In part because once you're in North Korea, you're not getting out. That isn't the case for Ukraine, Syria or any of the other war-torn countries.

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upvoteby etc-hosts11 hours ago|
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If you are a male between the ages of 17 and 55, you are not getting out of Ukraine right now.
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upvoteby cogman1011 hours ago|
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It'd depend on my status. There are a lot of people who can't just get out of Ukraine or Syria. The average citizen in Syria had no means to just flee. I'd assume in my above scenario that I'm one of the masses that can't escape.

NK does actually allow people to leave, mostly to china and mostly after they attain a high social class. A decent number of tourists, including US citizens, go on tours of NK.

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upvoteby JumpCrisscross11 hours ago|
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> NK does actually allow people to leave, mostly to china and mostly after they attain a high social class

I didn't know this. Source? I thought Pyongyang controls its elites' movement even more strictly than its commoners'.

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upvoteby cogman1011 hours ago|
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[1] Don't get me wrong, movement is highly restricted, but it's not impossible. AFAIK, it's mostly afforded to the elites in NK.

I guess I shouldn't have written leave, but to visit other countries. I don't think you can change your citizenship.

[1] https://www.youngpioneertours.com/can-north-koreans-travel/

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