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by guerrilla10 hours ago |
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upvoteby reliabilityguy8 hours ago|
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> You seem to have forgotten that the US attacked Iran first, which made this regime even possible in the first place.

Bombing of US marine barracks in Beirut in 1983 was funded, and organized by Iran. Just take half day off, and read a bit on the role of Islamic Republic in Middle East in the past 40 years. I guarantee your stance of "US attacked first" will change to the "unclear" at the least.

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upvoteby Saline95156 hours ago|
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Yeah and the 1953 coup to overthrow the Iranian prime minister and install a US puppet (the Shah) was organized by the CIA. We could also add that in the 1980's the US was actively supporting Iraq in its war against Iran.

This kind of thinking won't get you very far and won't ensure peace in the region.

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upvoteby etc-hosts8 hours ago|
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That is not clear at all!

The Lebanese Muslims at the time were furious that the Sixth Fleet was constantly shelling Shouf. At the time the Phalangists, with Israeli help, had recently murdered 3500 women and children at the Sabra and Shatila refugee camps.

There were and are plenty of grievances to go around in Lebanon.

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upvoteby reliabilityguy8 hours ago|
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> The Lebanese Muslims at the time were furious that the Sixth Fleet was constantly shelling Shouf.

Lebanese muslims are not a monolith. Shia and Sunni have very different opinions on things, and the 1983 barracks bombing was not done by the sunnis.

Anyway, what I am trying to say is that treating war with Islamic Republic today as some sort of consequence of the June 2025 is a mistake.

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upvoteby oatmeal17 hours ago|
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40 years is an interesting cutoff of where to start history. Did Iran show any aggression to the USA before the Coup d'etat organized by the CIA and MI6?
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upvoteby reliabilityguy6 hours ago|
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You do know that the people and groups that started the revolution in 1979 were basically all imprisoned and murdered by the islamists that rule Iran now?

I did not say that Iran started its war in the shadows with US in 1983, I just showed that the scope of the conflict is not limited to the past two years.

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upvoteby guerrilla6 hours ago|
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You're moving the goalpost now. This started with US imperialism in 1953. Iran wouldn't do what the US wanted, so they installed a puppet, like they always do all over the world.
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upvoteby guerrilla6 hours ago|
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It seems you needed more than half a day because you needed to go back further than 40 years.
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