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by nunobrito18 hours ago |
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upvoteby abhinavk18 hours ago|
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Motorola Mobility vs Motorola Solutions. Different companies. Different owners. Different nationalities.
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upvoteby nunobrito17 hours ago|
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Go ahead and trust them.

I won't.

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upvoteby gf00017 hours ago|
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Then keep using your phone made from magic pixie dust, because we live in reality where you can't just grow out "the perfect" hardware company from a seed.
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upvoteby nunobrito17 hours ago|
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There are other Android distributions without suspicious funding sources that don't force you into google-owned hardware, nor give you as second option to jump directly into NSA hardware suppliers.
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upvoteby karel-3d16 hours ago|
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But they are not NSA hardware suppliers.
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upvoteby nunobrito16 hours ago|
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Yes, they are. Since decades now. DYOR.
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upvoteby strcat15 hours ago|
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No, you're mixing up entirely different companies. GrapheneOS is working with the Lenovo subsidiary.
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upvoteby karel-3d14 hours ago|
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It's a different company. They just share the same name. You don't do your research properly. This is a Chinese-owned company, part of Lenovo.

(I mostly don't trust them because they are Chinese-owned, but then, everything is made either in China or by China-friendly Foxconn so, whatever.)

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upvoteby omnimus17 hours ago|
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I would like to know what kind of phone you are using.
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upvoteby nunobrito17 hours ago|
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At the moment this model: https://www.hotwav.com/products/hotwav-hyper-8-ultra-rugged-... with a modified Android based on LineageOS.

Connects to the world using GSM and radio using satellites throught https://geogram.radio

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upvoteby flexagoon16 hours ago|
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So your solution is using a dropshipped phone from a sketchy no-name Chinese company?
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upvoteby nunobrito10 hours ago|
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Yes.

You are arguing for absolute privacy, I am arguing for _more_ privacy than adopting well-known spyware devices.

There is a difference.

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upvoteby kotaKat16 hours ago|
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And I'm sure that Mediatek chipset has already been pre-backdoored for access by the folks at Cellebrite/Greykey/etc :|
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upvoteby nunobrito10 hours ago|
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Now provide a reliable link for that claim.
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upvoteby karel-3d16 hours ago|
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It's a different, unrelated company. You don't trust it because of a shared logo?

The mobile motorola is a fully Chinese company that just shares the brand because of history. It's nonsense to not trust it because a different company does NSA stuff. This is a basically unrelated Chinese company!

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upvoteby nunobrito10 hours ago|
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Very different. Oh so different.

That argument worked suprisingly well with boomers. Those with access to the internet in the last 20 years will find absolutely zero difference when a company changes ownership on the surface while retaining the previous business links.

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upvoteby strcat15 hours ago|
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You're mixing up 2 different companies descended from the original Motorola. Motorola Solutions is an entirely different company from Motorola Mobility with different owners. GrapheneOS is working with the company owned by Lenovo.
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upvoteby karel-3d18 hours ago|
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Isn't this Lenovo, a different thing from Mororola Solutions?

edit: yeah it's a different Motorola. Unrelated companies in 2025. Android Motorola is owned by Lenovo, it's a Chinese brand

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