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Nice ad hominems, good job.

It's the same deal with small phones. Everyone thinks they're a great idea, then when they actually release them no one buys them. You can't plan your products based on what a small group of users want.

I use Graphene myself and I think it's great but this idea that it's something the average user is clamoring for is just fiction.

by bored134 hours ago|

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Isn't OnePlus rumored to be on their way out?

At minimum, sales haven't been great, & their upmarket push into becoming a mainstream premium brand hasn't perfectly worked out for them

by cromka3 hours ago|

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That brand is 12 y/o and has between 3 and 5% market share, roughly the same as Motorola. Whether or not they make it doesn't matter, what matters is how they started as total amateurs with no brand and a beloved aftermarket ROM and where this got them.

by jinzo3 hours ago|

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They started (and still are?) as an Oppo spinoff. Very (very) far from 'total amateurs'.

I would very much like something other than a Pixel for GrapheneOS. But let's not get wild expectations based on false pretenses.

by cromka3 hours ago|

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Oppo itself released their first smartphone in 2011. So not total amateurs, you're right on that, but it was no Apple or Samsung or HTC. They managed to appeal to geeks and started a niche brand that went mainstream.

by turf_penguin3 hours ago|

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Market share declining albeit slowly, customer opinions of each device release declining over time as well & they are generally on the more expensive end of the phone market.

Most of the tech enthusiasts who helped them kick off by buying for modding like cyanogen don't go near them now.

They used to be my recommendation to non technical friends and I doubt that I am the only one who long ago changed to other recommendations.

The company needs to revisit their roots in my opinion.