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Literally the moment you buy a Mac. Apple hardware comes with 3 month trials of various subscriptions, and you get a notification about it. They try to get you to sign up in hopes you’ll forget to cancel.

When I bought my iPhone 17 the sales associate even tried to pitch signing up for the trial in person as he guided me through the purchase process.

When you cancel the trial it ends it immediately instead of ending it at the end of your trial period, a dark pattern designed to encourage you to forget to end your trial.

Apple devices also nag you about buying AppleCare in the system preferences.

I’ve never been hounded about my Microsoft account. Be specific. When does this happen? Yes, you need one to set up Windows 11 (just like a Mac and especially iOS are basically useless without an Apple account anyway), but after that I’ve never been hounded around anything related to it.

Never had problems figuring out how to open stuff in Windows. No idea what you’re saying.

Most of these extreme claims about Windows seem to come from people who don’t even use the OS regularly and have forgotten about the ways in which macOS does many of the same commercial OS practices.

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Every time my Windows gaming PC updates it nags me about setting up backups to OneDrive.

I cannot install Windows without a Microsoft account unless I apply work-arounds.

It constantly offers Office 365, even adding dummy icons to the start menu.

There are adverts on the login screen.

To be fair I installed Bazzite there, but for a laptop I cannot find an equivalent device at the same price point even ignoring the need for linux drivers.

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- When you buy a new device you get a few notes in System Settings encouraging you to try the free trials as well as buy AppleCare. You can dismiss these permanently with a couple clicks on each.

- When you open the respective apps they ask if you want to try the free trial.

- Apple once abused the Wallet app to send notifications about a theatrical release.

Other than that I'm not sure what the fuss is about.

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