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I canceled my subscription, but have not yet exported and deleted because I'm an idiot, and also because I'm not sure if deleting it will have any actual impact (is it a hard delete? Likely not, even if they say it is).

And I'm just trying to play out what happens if Anthropic, and Google (if they haven't already), capitulate. Am I just going to forego using the best models and suffer any repercussions of not having access when the people who couldn't care less if the military is using AI for illegal uses continue to leverage them? When I say illegal I'm talking about the surveillance-of-US-citizens red line Anthropic would not agree to. The autonomous weapon one I'm sure there are zero laws against and so that wouldn't actually be illegal.

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It’s not a hard delete because for legal reasons, they may have to retain it
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Supposedly they hold your deleted conversations/projects for 30 days. If that is true or not, idk, but it was asked when this first started.
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Are you able to view your chats through the .html file in the export? Mine are all garbled, like the JSON's not being parsed properly or something.
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Thanks, I had deleted the app from all my devices but not deleted the account. I have deleted my account now too.
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Asked for an export but still haven’t received the mail with the download link
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Took exactly 24 hours for me, on the minute..
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Me too, why do they do that?
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I am in the exact opposite position — I am such an Anthropic hater (bc I’m forced to use Claude Code instead of OpenCode against my will) that I am now pro-Trump

(this is a joke, please forgive me for engaging in public wrongthink)

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Work is not good per-se.
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no but it is unfortunately the only option for most of us for now.
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Oh you’ll still work. As a supplicant on your hands and knees for your capitalist overlords.
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This is nonsense, you can’t fire an AI and an AI will never take credit nor will it take responsibility. Humans will always be in charge, because you will never be able to completely trust an AI, because it has no skin in the game, literally.
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If we could move past the empty rhetoric?

It turns out a working economy requires well paid workers because somebody needs to buy shit

Even "capitalist overlords" (why not "evil bourgeois swine", while we're here) realize that. The "all SWE replaced" jabbering is a sales pitch to the uninformed. I.e. it's more P.T. Barnum than Jay Gould.

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People need to buy food. Are farmers well paid?
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You made a fresh account to say this or is this ironically a clawdbot
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It is duplicating...

@dang something needs to be done about this.

Edit: it even created an account based on my username. wtf...

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@dang is not a tag that notifies dang. You must email HN.
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The job of every software developer is, in essence, to make people unemployed. This is a particularly silly bit of morality to hang on.
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That's not civil disobedience. It's voting with your wallet.
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Maybe look up civil disobedience?
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Eh, they are all morally indefensible.

Anthropic had no problems to do business with the current administration until now. Are we to pretend it was all for happy purposes until now?

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Yeah how could Anthropic do business with the democratically elected government of the United States?
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Let‘s ignore all the bad things they have done since that, including killing two US citizens.
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Even if you don't like the current administration, the rank and file are still out there doing valuable work. The government is more than ICE; it also administers welfare, funds research, collects taxes, and distributes social security payments to the old and infirm.
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Easy enough to slap a “not for military or police use” clause on the license, then. Oh, what’s that? They don’t want to do that?
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Don't get too attached. We're witnessing capitalism in its most ruthless form. Any of these companies will discard their principles the moment it becomes existential.
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We are quite literally witnessing someone taking a massive hit for not discarding their principles.

Evergreen dril: "The wise man bowed his head and said 'there's no difference between good things and bad things you imbecile'"

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What's your source for this "massive hit"? All I've seen is a massive PR upside, despite what I said above.
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Losing a contract with the Pentagon and potentially all Federal-interacting businesses sounds like a pretty severe monetary hit. One which is hard to recoup by a bunch of $20/month consumer subscriptions.
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Presumably, if a spouse requested being able to have access to your phone at any time for a spot check, and to vet every single outgoing call and text you made, you would still marry this person, because that’s pretty much what Anthropic was requesting. Go/no-go on a per project basis.

No reasonable self-respecting person would agree to that, that’s basically “my relationship with you is contingent upon your guilt, until proven innocent.”

Dear HN: I would like comments before additional downvotes, please, this is not fucking Reddit

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If Anthropic changes course will you move to Gemini? If all models do, local llama I assume?
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Mistral is European and has competitive models.

DeepSeek is Chinese.

Avoiding the MAGA collaborators is not as difficult as you make it seem. Foundation models have genuine global competition.

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I wish it was just as easy to avoid the terrorist collaborators; unfortunately, the terrorists and their supporters don’t produce anything
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Mistral models are competitive? I thought they were far behind
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Anthropic, Google and the rest of them are all just as bad.

Local LLMs gives you the freedom to use a model without a third-party vendor which is the whole point here.

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Being model independent and cross-model capable is the required skill.
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