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Cutting staff does in no way mandate a un-notified and abrupt "hard-reset".

They could at least put it in read-only mode for a short time and allow downloading of extant community content prior to a scheduled "reset day".

This smacks of flailing leadership and zero respect for their target user demographic.

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They say trust is their product, well,I guess they're sold out
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In Digg's non-defense, Kevin Rose has been a serial-rug-puller for his entire career. See also Pownce, Milk, and Moonbirds.

The only sustained business I'm aware of is Hodinkee.

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Kevin Rose didn't start Hodinkee, he started Watchville years after Hodinkee was already well established. Watchville merged with Hodinkee, at which point he became the CEO for 2 years.

From what I can tell Watchville was abandoned a few years ago.

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> Digg's founder who started the company back in 2004

Their plan is to make the internet what is was 22 years ago.

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I wonder how much it's possible to recreate some of the old magic.

I'm sure it's impossible, but what if it's not?

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That's exactly what they did to the old Digg back in 2010 -- massive redesign that effectively deleted all old posts, comments, and favorites without warning or opportunity to back up. I pretty feel vindicated choosing not to trust them again, though it's wild they didn't even make an effort to do better here when they claim to want to keep going.
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If you're looking for a new platform lemmy is probably your best bet, at least if a server goes down everything is still saved on federated servers.
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I do have a lemmy account, but have not really returned to it in a while. Maybe I haven't found the right communities yet, but it had nothing about it that felt engaging. People upvoted, but nobody talked. No interaction. Digg felt more alive from day one. I replied to a post in a niche community with ~100 members and only afterwards realized it was @justin.
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My experience with lemmy has not been nice. A majority of people there are just downright awful, and the mods are often power-hungry and overzealous in their actions. Many times entire servers are defederated from many others due to how a large percentage of their users behave.

Example: https://0x0.st/8RmU.png

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Despite its flaws, X seems to have a better balance between what's allowed and what's not than other non-niche social networks.
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Fuck X. Various people can shove that 'better balance' completely up their jaXie.
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Lemmy has the same energy as ice: a bunch of rejects from other mod communities showing up to render their version of justice upon federated folks
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Yeah, the primary instance (lemmy.ml) isn't the best.

I use mander.xyz, it's science focused, but they also have a policy of only de-federating instances that host CSAM.

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Isn't the biggest instance Lemmy.world? I thought .ml was the oddball fringe dominated by tankies.
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Where is that policy located? I could not find it.

Their /instances page also only shows a single blocked instance, whereas something like programming.dev shows lots of questionable instances blocked.

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Honestly, I couldn't find it either, but the owner talks about it in his post about blocking threads https://mander.xyz/post/1062661
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> A majority of people there are just downright awful, and the mods are often power-hungry and overzealous in their actions.

If you're telling me it's _worse_ than reddit in this regard, I can only imagine how terrible it is.

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Lemmy is server software, it's like saying you don't use phpBB because it has bad mods
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You chose to put your effort into building something that someone else owns.

Next time try doing it in a way that you control it.

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You're right, and that is one of the lessons to be reminded of here.

My main point wasn't that, though. It's simply a bad and low-effort way to handle the situation, and like one of the other replies points out, there are better options. They could have just as well disabled posting and maybe even viewing of submissions and communities for the time being. Just shutting it all down immediately without notice leaves a bad taste in my mouth, and I will not be among the people returning for their next relaunch. I am sure others feel the same way, and I don't think it is a wise decision to needlessly put off your early adopters if you're hoping for them to come back "next time".

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Will we never learn to stop. Building. On. Platforms.
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Argh. Also quite irritated. I had 50/50 transitioned over to it despite the lower traffic because it was a calm oasis. The thing about bots is believable, though, because you could already see it happening. Dead Internet has been real for a while, and I'd love to seem Kevin and Alex do a followup on this.
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Yeah. Sadly the default communities were flooded with blog spam, and that's just the part I noticed. A couple days ago a bunch of smaller communities also got a noticeable bump in members. That didn't change anything in my own community, but others apparently weren't so lucky.

I can see why the team got overwhelmed. I wouldn't want to have to deal with that.

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