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> most of the arguments against it are moot points or simply falsehoods

What are the falsehoods in complaints against police unions?

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Police unions aren't the same thing as other unions. Most unions exist to equalize labor negotiation through collective bargaining, and police unions tend to include and align with the leadership in the organization that a union would traditionally be negotiating with. In practice they're a lot more like a military contractor than a union (in that their role is to prevent public accountability)
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> Police unions aren't the same thing as other unions

What about California teachers’ unions? European notaries?

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This is correct and the proof is that police do not strike with labor they fight labor on behalf of capital

The core premise of a union is that you have solidarity primarily across unions which is actually how you get collective-bargaining at larger scales

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>This is correct and the proof is that police do not strike with labor they fight labor on behalf of capital

I thought it was because they couldn't strike because they were "essential"?

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> core premise of a union is that you have solidarity primarily across unions which is actually how you get collective-bargaining at larger scales

Police unions in New York regularly join hands with other public-sector unions.

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lol. I typed ubi is and the autocorrect put “unions.” It has been corrected . But it is kinda funny anyway.
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This reminds me of a trading incident decades ago. We were unwinding a portfolio of correlation trades. The trades basically bet on continued correlation between assets. Unwinding those trades means assets which typically correlate now correlate less. When we fucked we they sometimes anticorrelated. Anyway, some of these price movements were noticed and incessantly commented on by CNBC pundits. Theories abounded. All wrong. Most amusing.
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> most of the arguments against it are moot points or simply falsehoods.

Ah the “I am sure we can all agree … that I’m right” argument.

In actuality, there are plenty of very good arguments against unions. That you don’t like them changes nothing

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lol “unions” was thanks to AI deciding “ubi is” couldn’t be what I meant. This might be saying something about the possibility of this working out.
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OK, but the same response still applies. There still are plenty of arguments against UBI, and you still need to actually refute them rather than just dismiss them with "they're false or moot".
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If its an easy 100m do a startup and get funding
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I’m working on that, but there’s an incentive alignment problem for early stage investment capital that requires investors with a little longer view to avoid kneecapping the value proposition, as well as the potential positive aspects to society.

(Am I allowed to be a little ideological when we are facing the potential extinction of humanity?)

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> Unions the actual solution

No, they are not. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge_v._Ford_Motor_Co.

Changing the table stakes is what needs to happen: see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mondragon_Corporation for a counter example.

Unions just create an us vs them mentality. The fact that the NUMMI plant ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NUMMI ) was not reproducible is a pretty strong indicator of that.

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Sorry, my AI autocorrected “ubi is” to “unions”. When I came back to all these “unions bad” comments I was like WTF are they on about??? lol.

But, I will say, often, unions are very positive things. Other times, basically evil. So, I think unions are a mixed bag. But the threat of potential unionization is almost a universal good, so it’s a right worth exercising once in a while.

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Imagine posting how unions are bad on a Saturday in your leisure time
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