Server Racks - you don’t interact with them often, but you will need to with the Hydroponics one.
Also, your setup is too clean. Water will drip, spill, the pebbles will fall. Looks really nice, though.
About 5 years ago, I worked with a Climate Research Scientist friend, growing exotic plants in dutch-buckets, tower aeroponics, and rack mounted red-lit setups to induce Vitamin B-12 (only found in meat, so deficiencies develops in vegetarian) to Spinach trying to produce Super Spinash.
Do you have some sort of inoculation step and then use red light to penetrate the spinach leaves to feed light energy to the bacteria?
Worth a mention as many door frames are easier to remove than a number of people might suspect .. fewer pieces to disassemble than many {object}'s and not an uncommon hack when moving furniture.
> Farmers discovered that bright leaf tobacco needs thin, starved soil, and those who could not grow other crops found that they could grow tobacco. Formerly unproductive farms reached 20–35 times their previous worth. By 1855, six Piedmont counties adjoining Virginia led Virginia's tobacco market
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Types_of_tobacco
This is one beast of a plant. My plants stayed alive when I stopped spraying water in September and only died because of frost in late December. They were about 40 cm high due to the small volume of the root chamber.
Anyway it's a great choice for an outdoor aeroponics setup.
So now I have a new project - I've always wanted to smoke 'pure' tobacco, like the ancients.
I'm twenty years too old to have an illegal harvest at home :)
Next stop, need to check how to cure the leaves.
Thanks!
Sell it?
One setup I had was a vertical (hydroponic) window farm, which looked pretty great, but the roots start to get into the tubing, which I suspect could happen in the rack-mount system too. It also wasn't simple to just take out one plant for maintenance.
A small NFT (nutrient film technique) box has worked very well, requires very little material as substrate and is easy to maintain. Might get problematic if growing the same plants for over a year since the roots can grow a lot and basically partially outgrow the system so the flow of water starts being insufficient and therefore might need at least some trimming and replanting if some of the roots start to suffer.
I'm in the process of trying out deep water culture, which requires even less materials since there's no growing medium, just water, and roots are submerged so doesn't have the same issues as NFT. Probably has it's own problems, though, and air pumps can be loud!
Anyhow, most of my plants are in a passive hydroponics system. "Kratky method" is something a bit similar. I basically replaced soil in pots with clay pellets and manage watering so that I have to water every 2-3 days. Requires clay pellets as the substrate so needs a bit more effort up front, but doesn't require electricity and is more portable when using small/medium sized pots. Pellets can be reused (at least most of them). I also added a short tube for monitoring water level and possible maintenance if I need to wash / flush the pot with the plant in it.
Regarding fertilizing, I rarely do any accurate measurements anymore. I got a few pump bottles and measured how much fertilizer one push gets me and wrote on the bottles how many pushes per litre. I also eye-ball the water color a bit since I know how it should look like.
Oh, and the plants that have done well for me, and can grow for a long time with multiple harvests (so no lettuce): peppers, cherry tomatoes, cucumbers, trying some small strawberries
To be clear, I'm not asking this in some new age way, and I'm sure it's better than the amount of pesti/herbicides used traditionally (and the whole movement behind hydro/aquaponics is fascinating to me), just wondering if this is something you ever tried minimising with such setups?
This is fun!
The following isn’t a knock on anyone doing cool stuff like this: I’ve avoided any sort of tinkering and automation of my gardening because I find gardening to be a slower-moving, meditative escape from technology. My brain shifts into a different mode (almost a flow state?) when I’m out working in the soil and tending to my plants.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJuo6Te1fM4 (2.5 minutes)
Just about everywhere has understood "bread and circuses" and "let them eat cake" to the point of monetarily promoting food production.
One of the big distinctions between feudalism and extreme capitalism in my mind is forgetting this.
The fact that it works at all after a number of years, is surprising to me, given everything that goes on with it: You've got a moist environment with water pumped through it multiple times a day, fertilizer in the water crusting up in places, living plants with their roots growing into the pipes, algae growth, and a lot of parts that are shuffled around often.
There might well be other systems around these days that are the same or better, I wouldn't know, the Gardyn is just what I ended up with when I researched it years ago and I'm happy with it. For downsides, seeds are expensive from Gardyn, but you can plant your own. I do buy some from Gardyn because they have a big selection, and they usually come out good, which regular seeds often don't for whatever reason. They try to push their subscription service but I don't need it, so don't use it.
Hope this doesn't come off as advertisement, as I said there may well be better options (would like to hear about them), but this one works for me for a pretty hassle-free experience.
Then you add the electricity cost and the seeds, and the maintenance time...
But it looks nice in a kitchen!
That said, I prefer growing outdoors if you have the space. It’s a total different maintenance (with way more bugs) but it also doubles as decor better than my hydroponic setup ever could.
You don’t need a $900 gadget to grow fresh herbs, either, of course. But that’s one way you could think of it “recouping” the capital.
In a backyard 5gal/19l bucket, I could get 3lbs/1.5kg of potatoes or 3lbs/1.5kg of cherry tomatoes. The latter is a better deal.
Edit: just checked the specs, 47 kWh/mo, roughly 65W on average
1. Convert acres of agricultural land into a datacenter.
2. Put plants inside.
3. ???
4. Profit?My motivation to work on such a project was my disbelief in human mankind to keep our planet earth habitable.
It's feel just the next evolution in our written messaging dialect. Gen X had c u l8r?. Millennials didn't have to pay per character, and got full qwerty keyboards so opted for normal sentences. And now Gen Z have decided that auto-capitalisation is unnecessary.
I actually didn't notice the lack of caps until I read this comment
I also didn’t notice the lack of caps until coming to the comments.
…and I’m a pedantic SOB!
At least make it sound like you’re speculating if you’re going to.
Protein-wise, an all cabbage diet would give you more if you’re meeting calorie needs - 5.1g protein per 100 calories, or 102g protein for 2000 calories worth of cabbage.. but that is a heck of a lot of cabbage (17ish lbs)!
Let’s be real though, people should be eating a varied diet and not just a single food. And perhaps not a junk food only diet.
When I was growing up, there was a vogue among my fellow vegetarians for the book Diet for a Small Planet which suggested that we needed to eat a diversity of amino acids in each meal, hence "complementary" proteins at the same time. This concept then seemed to fade away completely because it appears that the body can actually successfully make use of amino acids even when consumed at different times. But they have to be consumed eventually!
* https://dysonfarming.com/strawberries/
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FA6BCIWPJ30
The rationale there is a combo of profit (from off season strawberries) and mark-up possible from unique branding (Dyson) and social fuzzies (eco-friendly, etc (regardless of cold economics)).
Potatoes especially don't like to be submerged. But otherwise they are not that hard to grow. A simple grow bag will do. That's true for a lot of root vegetables and tubers. For vegetables like that, greenhouses are more common.
With rice and grains, they grow well enough in hydroponics but you just need an enormous amount of area to get to interesting amounts. Also the growing season for that is quite long. Hydroponics favor things that you can harvest in weeks rather than say 2-3 times per year.
I'm more intrigued by duckweed, which grows very fast and is a common food in some countries.
https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/jf203275m
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S194439862...
Bioflavonoids are important.
So the alternative is to grow lettuce that has a greater price to energy ratio.
Other nutrients like phosphorus or potassium come disolved in water, but in intensive farming they must be added to the soil, so it's the same that dissolving in the hydroponic solution. Perhaps it's more efficient in hydroponic than in soil.
Nitrogen is more tricky. There is plenty of Nitrogen in the air but not in a useful form, so in most cases it must be added as fertilizer. In some cases like soy the plants have helper bacteria that transform the nitrogen from the air into useful forms. This conversion takes a lot of energy, so I don't expect the lack of wind to be a problem, you still need some air movement to keep the CO2 high and the O2 low. (Anyway, farming soy under artificial light is probably not profitable for the same reason farming potatoes under artificial light is not profitable.)
The most important thing you lack inside a vertical farm that you get almost for free in a big faring field is sunlight (i.e. energy).
I do that manually with my plants twice a week, they have flowers almost all year, but it's a chore to bring them out, flood them, make them drain and bring them back home.
Also my wife always yells at me because I always wet the floor in the process.
I'll water my indoor tomatoes, basil and thyme. It is way more productive than blabbering about gardening in the internet.