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I live in DE too, it's terrifying. I didn't realize the extent of the armaments shipped to Israel from Germany until recently.

The Israeli navy ships were built in German shipyards and subsidized 30%...

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I find this bewildering. Im not German. Im not Israeli.

Yet I have known that Israel sails German subs (the best in the world) since.... the Greek financial crisis (the subs were part of the scandal) ? Certainly since the mid 2010s.

Why is this?

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> Auschwitz Girls’ Orchestra

Is this something from the post-war or did that really exist?

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women%27s_Orchestra_of_Auschwi...

“The Germans wanted a propaganda tool for [SS] visitors and camp newsreels and a tool to boost camp morale.”

There were also several men’s orchestras.

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The last time I was in Berlin (2018), I was actually somewhat shocked by the amount of antisemitic graffiti that I saw just about everywhere (especially on lamp posts). Especially given the strictness of the laws against such speech.
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Wait until you hear how Muslims in Europe treat openly gay people.
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Wait until you hear Muslims in Europe can be openly gay.
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It's even more insidious, I know activists in your country and they not only abhor the current support for Israel's genocide but they are terrified of their activism being criminalized under anti-nazi laws. How ironic.
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Every single person is a product of their circumstances. If you personally were to grow up in either country, the neural network in your brain would be trained with a way different set of data compared to what you experienced, and you would be a different person.

I don't have sympathy or hated for either side, this is just a byproduct of being human.

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Are you trying to justify or minimize families being killed for no reason?

I don't get your response in context of what I posted. There are truths, and pointing out someone that goes against that truth shouldn't have to worry about circumstances - especially if those circumstances have been widely documented to be violence since its inception.

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There is a difference between war and extermination.
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>and unfortunately for us the palestinians political leadership has brought us all into this scenario

Simply not true. The plan from the start was to take over the area for jews, see Ben Gurions private letters. Netanyahu has supported Hamas to make sure that Palestine couldn't be politically united to be able to continue taking over the west bank. The power balance has since long been tipped to one side that is engineering the situation.

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"We must seek agreement and understanding with the Arab people only through the Arab worker, and only an alliance of Jewish and Arab workers will establish and maintain an alliance of the Jewish and Arab peoples in Palestine"

That's a Ben Gurion quote, who was a socialist and believed in shared class struggle of Jews and Arabs. The rest of your comment is influenced by other lack of nuance

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Ben-Gurion famously preached coexistence publicly (sometimes) but his private messages and memoirs betray his true beliefs:

5 October 1937, Ben-Gurion wrote in a letter to his 16 year old son Amos: “We must expel the Arabs and take their places…. And, if we have to use force-not to dispossess the Arabs of the Negev and Transjordan, but to guarantee our own right to settle in those places- then we have force at our disposal.”

“It is very possible that the Arabs of the neighboring countries will come to their aid against us. But our strength will exceed theirs. Not only because we will be better organized and equipped, but because behind us there stands a still larger force, superior in quantity and quality …the whole younger generation of Jews from Europe and America.” Ben-Gurion, Zichronot [Memoirs], Vol. 4, p.297-299, p. 330-331. See also Teveth, Ben-Gurion and the Palestinian Arabs, p. 182-189

https://www.progressiveisrael.org/ben-gurions-notorious-quot...

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Well newsflash, the Israeli socialists and left wing have lost all influence for the most part. The only way you can form a government in the Knesset today is by a coalition of parties, most of which lean right-wing to far-right or ultra-Orthodox.
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