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It's interesting that the people IRL I encounter who "get the most value" tend to be the devs who couldnt distinguish well written code from slop in the first place.

People online with identical views to them all assure me that theyre all highly skilled though.

Meanwhile I've been experimenting using AI for shopping and all of them so far are horrendous. Cant handle basic queries without tripping over themselves.

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If you are a 2600 chess player, a bot that plays 1800 chess is a horrendous chess player.

But you can understand why all the 1700 and below chess players say it is good and it is making them better using it for eval?

Don't worry, AI will replace you one day, you are just smarter than most of us so you don't see it yet.

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The analogy of thinking of coding AI like it's chess AI is terrible. If chess AI was at the level of coding AI, it wouldn't win a single game.

This kind of thinking is actually a big reason why execs are being misinformed into overestimating LLM abilities.

LLM coding agents alone are not good enough to replace any single developer. They only make a developer x% faster. That dev who is now x% faster may then allow you to lay off another dev. That is a subtle yet critical difference.

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I like the chess analogy as it answer the question: why can't i see those gain?

To adress your point, let's try another one analogy. Imagine secreterial assistants, discussing their risk of been replaced by computers in the 80s. They would think: someone still need to type those letters, sit next to that phone and make those appointments, I am safe. Computers won't replace me.

It is not that AI will do all of your tasks and replace you. It is that your role as a specialist in software development won't be necessary most of the time (someone will do that, and that person won't call themselves a programmer).

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Secretarial assistant as a profession is still very alive, and the title has been inflated to stratospheric heights (and compensation): "Chief of Staff"
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Idk basically everyone is my org has seen some good value out of it. We have people complaining about limitations, but would still rather have that tooling than not.

For me the main difference is now some people can explain what their code does. While some other only what it wants to achieve

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> I've been experimenting using AI for shopping

This is an interesting choice for a first experiment. I wouldn't personally base AI's utility for all other things on its utility for shopping.

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It's not a first experiment it's experiment 50 or 60 and, a reaction to AI gaslighting.

Most people dont really understand coding but shopping is a far simpler task and so it's easier to see how and where it fails (i.e. with even mildly complex instructions).

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Do you mind sharing examples of the prompts you are using?
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