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You have made a claim.

   That... sounds like a simple problem.
I have made a counter-argument.

   If you ignore the incumbency, the regulations, the training requirements, the retrofitting, the verification, the international coordination, and the existing unfathomably reliable systems built out of past tragedies, then sure, it’s "simple". But then, if you're ignoring those things, you’re not really solving the problem, are you?
You retorted.

   Those are excuses and encumbrances, not reasons.
I rebutted.

   Ok. You have shared that what some say are reasons, you say are excuses... I maintain that this is not a simple problem.
Which you ignored to make a new claim against a straw man.

    I just want what I've been asking for: someone to explain to me why, in 2026, humans still need to be involved in the real-time aspects of ATC.
That is what is not acceptable. You cannot simply abandon your original claim because it has been plainly pointed out that it is incorrect. You were not simply asking for someone to explain why humans need to be involved in real-time aspects of ATC. That is a wholly different question! You claimed this problem was simple, and it has been explained to you why it is not. Please reason about your argument more soundly.

On the heels of tragedy, you reasoned this could've been avoided simply. We are all ears. And yet, at no point did you demonstrate any understanding of the problem containing real world constraints, and instead demand that it be explained to you how the world works and how systems are implemented.

If you want to discuss an idealized system in a vacuum, then say as much; I would find that interesting. But do not demand to be given an explanation when you do not understand—and cannot accept—why things are the way they are.

Let me summarize it like this: you may very well have the best solution in the world, but if it doesn't include a strategy for how to share it (let alone implement it), then I maintain you do not understand the problem and therefore cannot claim it is simple.

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https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47492768

Can you please explain how specifically you imagine a scenario like this getting automated?

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No, that's not how this works. You tell me why it can't or shouldn't be automated.

"Design an automated ATC system" isn't a valid answer to "Why can't ATC be automated?"

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You: why don't we have a universal cancer vaccine?

Me: because it's a really hard problem

You: sounds like an excuse

Me: okay... can you explain how it could work?

You: THAT'S NOT HOW THIS WORKS

okay

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Er, I sort of do think that's how it works? The ultimate rebuttal to "you can't do X" is to actually do X. Until you do that I think that ultimately the burden of proof falls on you. It can be very easy to imagine certain tasks and systems can be automated - especially when you aren't actively involved in those tasks and systems and are unfamiliar with their intricacies.
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