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I heard Seedance is also full of restrictions now, although the model seems to be better at that sort of “cinematic” look, which might allow it to compete with Veo 3 and the like.

The issue is that Sora ended up getting the short end of the stick: by generating the footage, it became the primary target of complaints. Meanwhile, they were forced to remove the videos, but people simply took those videos and uploaded them to random social media platforms like Twitter, TikTok, or YouTube, which ended up hosting the content while being much less of a target, since the content wasn’t generated there.

Honestly, I think the only way forward will be to wait for local models to become good enough so that you can run something like Sora locally and generate whatever you want.

by ronsor1 days ago|

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Seedance has a lot more restrictions now, but still arguably not as much, it's probably cheaper for ByteDance to run, and as you said, it at least looks good enough to be worth paying for.

Sora had all of the downsides, and attracted all of the scrutiny. Local-first is definitely the way.

by nomel17 hours ago|

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> Local-first is definitely the way.

i think it's clear cloud hosted is the actual future, which people have predicted for decades. it will never make financial sense to duplicate what you can get for cheap, because it's oversubscribed, with economies of scale and "if we let this run idle it's losing us money" pressure, for hardware found in a datacenter.

this has been the case for a long while now, and will increasingly be so as data centers buy up all the everything.

by ronsor8 hours ago|

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Local-first doesn't exclude cloud hosting; it just means you can run it locally.

With open models, you have multiple providers competing on inference speed, quality, and price, leading to healthier market without lock-in.

by nomel2 hours ago|

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local first usually means extreme compromise so it can, practically, be run locally, because the cost of owning high end hardware is prohibitive. there are also companies providing locally deployed closed source models, that meet certain security requirements.

"open weights" is the appropriate term.