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> It's so narrow that they can even hit ships with artillery fire.

I'm not a military export but it doesn't look like a very good option. To get accurate targeting information Iran will have to use radars. Radars can be detected and destroyed given that the US has air dominance. Also as soon as artillery will start to fire their position will be calculated by counter-battery radars (and they will be destroyed again thanks to air dominance).

So drones (both UAV and unmanned USV) are likely more viable options for Iran.

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During daytime, a 24 mile artillery hit on a ship the size and speed of an oil tanker is entirely within the capability of WW2-era naval gunnery by optics alone. Provided they have time for a few ranging salvoes.

(HMS Warspite, a WW1 era ship, managed a 24km hit on another moving ship!)

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OP forgot to mention just mining the strait, which is also an option.
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> This conflict lights a fire under the behinds of all nascent nuclear states. Iran would not have been invaded if they'd managed to build nuclear weapons.

Replace "Iran" with "Ukraine", the difference being that the latter gave them away.

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> If they sink a ship at the right spot, the straight could become barricaded.

Just a minor point, but, the shipping routes are thin, but they are not that thin. It would take several ships to do that.

> Unfortunately, the straight of Hormuz gives Iran the ability to prevent Trump from simply TACO'ing out and proceeding to invade Cuba.

Iran already proposed a soft-victory condition that Trump could use to TACO-out. He can just claim it's Europe problem, so Europe deal with the toll.

It's Israel that won't allow TACO.

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Agreed on your points. This conflict, just validated the North Korea style of strategy to all regimes out there. It does the opposite of what it is intended.

I hope things do get de-escalated soon, as this is not good for any party (apart Israel and Russia, which are the main gainers of all this mess).

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But it didn't really. Iran is poorer than it was before, even more of a problem than it was before. NK has two very special advantages (Seoul is within artillery range, and it is literally in the backyard of one or two relevant superpowers over the decades) whereas Tehran's "force projection" is mostly through proxies and affecting global commodity trade.

Without NK's hard deterrence (and without being next door to its allies) Tehran is an easy target up until the last second. And even then what's going to happen if they detonate a nuclear bomb? Everyone will sit back and let them build as many more as they feel?

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> Iran is poorer than it was before, even more of a problem than it was before.

Iran seemingly is coming out of this mess stronger than it was before.

The regime remains unchanged, and is likely less willing to make concessions now. Hell, even sanctions on it being able to sell oil have been lifted, which is a boon to their economy.

They are in effective control of the strait, and justified in exercising it now. Yeah, other gulf countries may try to circumvent it with pipelines and whatnot, depending on how poorly they come out of this war - and it is not like you create a pipeline in a few days. Those are big engineering projects.

If I were a betting man, which I am not, I think they will just resume their nuclear weapons program unchallenged after this, and will likely achieve it. It is clear that no one can stop them doing so.

And frankly, they should. Every country that can have nuclear weapons should develop them, that much is very clear, as the last decade taught everyone.

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> Iran seemingly is coming out of this mess stronger than it was before.

This is a wild take. Their top leaders and generals have been killed, they have no control over their own airspace, have their military and civilian infrastructure completely at the mercy of their enemies, and have no navy/airforce any more.

Oh, and their currency collapsed.

But other than that they are doing great.

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Yeah, and for some reason this place that has "military and civilian infrastructure" completely at the mercy of their enemies is right now exercising full control of one extremely important sea trade route, and is wreaking havoc on all gulf states allied to the US, and is successfully hitting targets on Israel.

Facts have this annoying tendency of getting in the way of propaganda.

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Explain how they are better off than when the war started.
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Since you seemingly have trouble reading text, I'll try to condense it in some bullet points.

Unfortunately HN has no crayon functionality:

1. Regime still in power, legitimized by the defense against foreign agressors.

2. Internal unrest loses steam.

3. Effective control of the strait of Hormuz, being able to, for example, dictate who is allowed to pass through and/or demand tolls for safe passage.

4. Weakening of the US presence in the Gulf countries. In particular the destruction of radar systems. Those things are expensive.

5. Lifting of sanctions on Iranian oil, at a time where the resource is very expensive.

6. Likely will be able to pursue its nuclear ambitions undeterred.

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1) What defense? They have been punching back but have been unable to stop enemy strikes. Do you understand what the word "defense" means?

2) That happened before the war, and the protesters have been told to hold off for now. Its completely irrelevant to this war.

3) They control it for now. We'll see how long they can continue threatening global trade. My money is not for long. [1]

4) Attacking radar systems is not weakening the US presence in gulf countries. What they have succeeded in doing is attacking almost every gulf country souring relations.

5) This makes no difference since they were selling to russia and china regardless

6) This makes no sense, as they had operational Nuclear facilities up until the moment Israel/US blew them up. There is no reason to think we wouldn't do it again.

[1] https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/bahrain-uae-join-20-oth...

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Needless to say, I think you are full of shit.

But we will see in the coming days and weeks how things progress.

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Obviously the current US Mobministration is almost impervious to shame, but of course they still have their own egoistic expectations to grapple with.

They are not afraid to spend money (and blood) on a problem, even if it turns out to be bigger than expected. How much? We'll see.

The neighbors are motivated to not live next to one more nuclear state. We'll see how much.

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> They are not afraid to spend money (and blood) on a problem, even if it turns out to be bigger than expected. How much? We'll see.

I agree, but it is unclear if "more money" is the answer here. Iran is a much tougher nut to crack than Afghanistan. Afghanistan is barely a country. Iran is an actual, functioning country, with a territory that is geographically very defensible. And on top of that, they have actually been preparing for this for decades.

The ironic bit is that I thought the Iranian regime was on an irreversible decline, as the unrest amongst the population was growing in recent years.

The analysis I have read point out that this attack actually further legitimizes the regime and takes steam away from internal unrest, especially if Iran comes out on top.

Every authoritarian government needs an enemy. The US-Israel axis provided a very real, tangible one.

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> The analysis I have read point out that this attack actually further legitimizes the regime and takes steam away from internal unrest, especially if Iran comes out on top.

Yes. Unfortunately both things can be true (irreversible decline) and solidified regime due to any external intervention.

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Counter point to 4. The Israeli's wouldn't be trying to kill the Iranian leaders if they hadn't spent the last 40 years waging a proxy war against Israel.
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Tehran "spent" 2T USD on the nuclear weapons program, which they could have spent on water desalination for example.

Yes having the deterrent is strategically beneficial, but working toward it paints a huge target on your back, while you need to pay for development, endure sanctions, etc.

Any state considering such weapons development already knows this. So this war is not new information.

And it's far from over yet.

Iran could very well end up cut off from the strait as rival gulf states build pipelines, rail, and drone defenses. (Sure this kind of long term thinking is not characteristic of the actors involved, but politics change easier around Iran than inside it.)

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> Tehran "spent" 2T USD on the nuclear weapons program, which they could have spent on water desalination for example.

(Side note: That... seems like a very high figure to me?) For comparison the US spent close to $1 trillion in 2024 on the military. It could have saved lives and spent that money on healthcare. But that's not how govts work. Iran didn't get a drawstring bag with 2T in it and chose to throw it all on nukes.

Additionally, you're trying to bring a (totally valid tbf) logical argument ("Desalination is critical and an excellent place to spend money that's not going into saving lives") to a government that behaves like a cornered wild animal. It will act to save itself first, even if attacking the aggressor hurts itself too in the process.

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> It will act to save itself first, even if attacking the aggressor hurts itself too in the process.

Of course, but as we see simply focusing on ground forces, drones, and anti-air defenses would be strictly better. (Because they wouldn't be this sanctioned, and they could even have a civilian nuclear energy program too.)

> 2T USD

It's a number coming from an Iranian trade official.

I heard it in this video: https://youtu.be/OJAcvqmWuv4?t=1084 and unfortunately there's no source cited, but I think it's this one: "As former Iranian diplomat Qasem Mohebali admitted on May 20, 2025, “uranium enrichment has cost the country close to two trillion dollars” and imposed massive sanctions yet continues largely as a matter of national pride rather than economic logic."

https://www.ncr-iran.org/en/news/nuclear/iaea-report-and-geo...

see also https://freeiransn.com/the-two-trillion-dollar-drain-irans-m...

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It can't be 2T USD. That's about 60 times the cost of the Manhattan project in today's dollars. It could maybe be 2T Iranian rials.
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