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by bushbaba6 hours ago |
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upvoteby TheRoque6 hours ago|
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13 inch screen though.. it's really small

And with 8GB of RAM you are quite limited in the business sector as you say

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upvoteby longislandguido6 hours ago|
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I'm seeing a lot of "8GB ought to be enough for anybody" here over the last week....
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upvoteby bombcar6 hours ago|
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Steam report is a good thing to look at:

https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey?platform=mac

For Mac, 30% are at 8GB, 43% at 16GB.

Windows has nearly nobody below 16GB (27%) and the biggest is 32GB (58%)

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upvoteby bobbob19216 hours ago|
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I think it’s worth mentioning also- 8 GB ram on a Mac is not the same as 8 GB on a windows OS machine, given the poor state of windows as an OS as of the past few years.
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upvoteby longislandguido5 hours ago|
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I forgot about magical Mac memory.

Just keep it under one browser tab, bro.

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upvoteby aurareturn4 hours ago|
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It actually is magic Mac memory. No joke. 8GB on macOS is good enough for 80% of people.
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upvoteby lukeschlather4 hours ago|
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Do browsers and Electron apps magically take up less memory on Macs? What is "good enough?" I never notice problems on my 16GB Windows laptop, so just for fun I closed all of my 6 always-on Electron-type apps, all of the 10 browser windows I had open, a couple other ever-present apps, and it looks like without anything else Windows 10 takes about 4GB, which I think is in the same ballpark as OS X. And I probably have some stuff running that I didn't close, this is very unscientific.

Anecdotally also, my one laptop that I've upgraded to Windows 11 is a lot snappier. As a rule I haven't noticed memory pressure on any device I've owned ever as a "regular user," it only really applies to gaming and heavy development with lots of VMs, especially these days.

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upvoteby aurareturn3 hours ago|
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Swap on macOS is incredibly good. Not sure how Apple does it. Maybe hardware compression?
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upvoteby dymk6 hours ago|
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I don’t see much “for anybody”, but I do see a lot of “for students / people who browse the web / word processing” which is still a pretty large set of people, and the Neo handles those workloads just fine
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upvoteby longislandguido5 hours ago|
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Literally two comments above mine in this discussion:

> The Neo is probably the best laptop for typical people.

I rest my case.

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upvoteby dymk4 hours ago|
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"students / web browsing / word processing" == typical people, but maybe that's my own biases
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upvoteby dpark6 hours ago|
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13” is not really that small. It’s a screen size many people choose.

The Neo is also not a play for businesses directly. It seems pretty clearly a play for students who will eventually enter the business world with their personal laptop preferences.

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upvoteby Sohcahtoa825 hours ago|
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> The Neo is also not a play for businesses directly.

This really is the key point.

The Neo is not a work laptop (At least, not for engineers). It's a low-end laptop designed to compete with Chromebooks.

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upvoteby aurareturn4 hours ago|
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I spent one year using an M1 8GB Macbook Air as a professional developer during covid. The A18 Pro flies around the M1. You can definitely use this as a dev - especially when we're just prompting AI nowadays.
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