Bad by whose definition? They work really well in my experience. They aren't perfect but the amount of hand holding has gone down dramatically and you can fix any glaring problems with a code review at the end. I work on a multimillion line code base which does not use any popular frameworks and it does a great job. I may be benefiting from the fact that the codebase is open source and all models have obviously been trained on it.
replyIt takes 10 seconds for Gemini CLI to load. 10 seconds to show an input field. This is for a CLI program.
replyFor comparison, it takes me less time to load Chrome and go to gemini.google.com.
> They work really well in my experience.
replyYeahhh strong disagree there, I find Codex and CC to be buggy as hell. Desktop CC is very bad and web version is nigh unusable.
At least Gemini and Claude constantly break down with scrolling in various Linux terminals, something which was solved by countless TUIs decades ago.
replyI think a lot of the people prasing Claude & co are on Macs.
Most of their issues have been solved a long time ago, with 1000x less code. It is depressing at this point. I really had no clue IT was in the shitters this much. I knew it was theatrical but I had no idea that it was by this much.
replyAll these AI tools teams have most valid excuse "We are just a bunch of people who only know Javascript/typescript/NodeJS. Please bear with us while we resolve 10,000 open issues."
replyI haven't seen the scrolling glitch in months, where previously it was happening multiple times a day. Also haven't seen anyone complain about it in quite some time. Pretty sure they have resolved that.
replyThey have not! If I am scrolled up while more output is produced, the scrollback jumps to the top pretty consistently.
replyI'm on a mac! And I still find bugs on a regular basis...
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