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by flowerthoughts5 hours ago |
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upvoteby roadbuster4 hours ago|
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They certainly have, but the general idea is to first use stealth jets to bomb defensive systems (including radar observability) to conquer the skies, and then you can fly around somewhat freely. While SAM technology has improved, so have America's observability and stealth bombing capabilities. It will be interesting to learn the context and sequence of events which led to an F-15 being shot down by enemy fire.

(In 1991, the United States relied on the F-117 Nighthawk to penetrate Baghdad and launch salvos against radar and SAM sites. Simultaneously, Tomahawk cruise missiles were fired against similar communication and defense sites. In this war with Iran, the F-35 and B-2 have been used for stealth missions).

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upvoteby thinkcontext2 hours ago|
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> F-117 Nighthawk

Recall that the Serbs shot down a Nighthawk when they were in a similar situation to Iran. They kept some good AA missiles in reserve and used a system of spotters and just waited for an opportunity. Its likely that similar tactics were used by Iran.

Also recall that the Houthis, armed and trained by Iran, gave F35s some close calls over Yemen.

https://www.twz.com/air/how-the-houthis-rickety-air-defenses...

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upvoteby ninja39251 hours ago|
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The story is actually quite interesting. The Serbs observed that a nighthawk would routinely fly the same route but their radar couldn’t lock on it unless the missile hatch were open, which they managed to elicit.

In short, it took 2 rare events to occur for it to happen.

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upvoteby asdff4 hours ago|
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Turns out Iran is good at hiding stuff in caves and driving it out on a truck platform. Who would have known?
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upvoteby gherkinnn3 hours ago|
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Next you're going to tell me that operating out of your own mountainous terrain has an advantage.
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upvoteby asdff3 hours ago|
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Would be news to the US military it seems. Mountains, jungles, who would have thought?
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upvoteby nutjob22 hours ago|
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Possibly true, but at least they don't have the ability to control some critical waterway or something to hold everyone at ransom.
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upvoteby praptak2 hours ago|
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The Serbs successfully used a similar tactic to down an F-117A, so yeah.
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upvoteby mr_toad2 hours ago|
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Most of the F15 upgrades have been against other aircraft. The F15 is primarily an air superiority fighter, it isn’t designed for attacks or defence against ground forces. The F15E is modified to attack ground targets, but ideally they would be targets without any air defences.
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upvoteby ranger2072 hours ago|
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The F-15E Strike Eagle variant is definitely designed for attacks and defense against ground forces, but overall air defense is a probability game so it's not too surprising that it eventually happened
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upvoteby mr_toad2 hours ago|
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Yes, although it’s designed for interdiction, rather than primarily a ground attack aircraft, the difference being that it’s intended to be used against defenceless ground targets (like supply lines), not on the front lines.
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upvoteby christkv2 hours ago|
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A lot of the planes are doing attack runs at altitudes where they are susceptible to man pads I imagine.
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