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by ericmay2 hours ago |
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upvoteby ElProlactin1 hours ago|
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> Yet we've wiped out quite a bit of their military infrastructure and have complete control over the skies.

How can you believe that the US has "complete control over the skies" given today's events?

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upvoteby cjbgkagh2 hours ago|
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We must be using different definitions for ‘complete’. I think Iran is using loitering anti-air missiles with IR seeking which seems to be effective. Maybe this sudden spike is reflective of receiving new equipment from China.
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upvoteby ericmay2 hours ago|
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Could be. I guess my definition is “US can do whatever it wants without contest” and that seems to be the case here. What fighter jets does Iran have that are not destroyed? Do they have significant anti air defenses that we can’t attack and that limit our operations? Not to my knowledge but maybe there are parts of the country where that’s true, for now.

Of course in any war someone can fire back at and sometimes hit your aircraft even if you have complete airspace control.

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upvoteby pavel_lishin55 minutes ago|
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> I guess my definition is “US can do whatever it wants without contest” and that seems to be the case here.

Whatever it wants, as long as that doesn't include flying aircraft or going through the strait.

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upvoteby cjbgkagh2 hours ago|
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I would term it; the US has air dominance but the airspace is still contested as evident by the recent losses.

Also, I think the US is still predominantly using standoff munitions instead of switching to dumb munitions because the airspace is still contested.

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upvoteby ericmay1 hours ago|
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I don't view it as contested because there aren't to my knowledge limitations on US operations. There's no aircraft for the US to worry about, nor are the SAM capabilities unknown. Guys get rockets and shoot them at aircraft, that makes it dangerous but not necessarily contested.

Yes the US probably is still using precision weapons because, well, unlike the Iranian government we don't want to use so-called dumb munitions and indiscriminately bomb civilians or civilian targets. And of course in general, why even fly into the airspace if you don't have to - malfunctions happen too.

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upvoteby ElProlactin59 minutes ago|
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> Yes the US probably is still using precision weapons because, well, unlike the Iranian government we don't want to use so-called dumb munitions and indiscriminately bomb civilians or civilian targets.

Are you referring to the "precision" weapons that hit the girls' school?

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upvoteby Saline95151 hours ago|
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The us has air dominance but not air supremacy, which is why missiles are mostly used rather than bombs with gps kits, requiring to get much closer.

And the US has been very keen to bomb civilians and civilian infrastructure, along with Israelis, since the start of the war [0]. The US-Israelis are guilty of war crimes.

The recent bombing of an unfinished bridge is another example of the US-Israeli actions, especially since they did a double-tap to kill rescuers. [1]

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Qeshm_Island_desalination...

[1] https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/firestorm-for-hegseth-a...

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upvoteby voganmother422 hours ago|
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Oh yeah, its going great, so much achieved for only 30B and untold human lives, the winning!
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upvoteby pavel_lishin55 minutes ago|
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> have complete control over the skies.

If we had complete control over the skies, we wouldn't be losing aircraft, would we?

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upvoteby seanw4442 hours ago|
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Not sure why you're getting downvoted. It is completely expected to lose aircraft in an operation of this scale, against an opponent with this level of sophistication. People put way too much stock in all of these modern stealth systems and whatnot. Stealth, for example, is a buzzword. It will give a slight edge, but it's not going to make your aircraft completely invisible and unshootable.
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