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They sold me a Pixel phone with a broken battery (I think 6a? Where the battery fails after 400 charging cycles). I got an email and the offer to just get 100$ in cash from them instead of sending my phone away to get it fixed. I never received the money after filling out all the forms. Fuck google.
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My pixel 7 battery was dreadful, and despite it being promised to come with 3 months of YouTube premium and Music I didn't successfully redeem either.

I admit once it didn't work I didn't reach out to support but the entire experience was shit sandwich after shit sandwich.

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I agree with your sentiment, but I wanted to call out that they've always been just as evil as other big tech companies.

I think their motto of "don't be evil" was some pretty clever PR.

I started questioning it c. 2008 when they ghosted me on resolving an issue with my blogspot site that was a bug in the platform. All I could get was a condescending non-response from a "diamond" volunteer on a forum. They were apparently the gatekeepers to reaching actual support.

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I definitely don't think they've ever been super nice, but I still they still have a few much more user-friendly approaches than others. E.g., one of the reasons I bought a Pixel is that Google is one of the only phone makers that manages to have respectable security practices and still respects users enough support them choosing to modify the software on their devices and run alternate operating systems.
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They weren't always evil, not in my opinion.

Back in the day they bought Feedburner, and merged it with their internal equivalent. In that process, my subscriber list was affected. They apologized and even sent out some swag. That was nice, for a small inconvenience at the time.

Today? humans don't even seem to be involved.

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I think their "Don't be evil" was pretty close to the truth, as much as it can be for large corporations, until around the time Google purchased DoubleClick. That was in 2008, so that seems to match your experience.
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Well, the actual phrase came from an engineer.
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Also, the executives 'retired' the official 'Don't be evil' slogan some time ago. I guess they didn't want to be limited. Seems fitting to the suits.
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Disagree. Even with their issues, they're still less evil than MS, Apple and especially Oracle or Meta.

If they didn't have all their issues (discontinuing products, bad customer service) they'd probably be bigger than MS and Apple combined. But here we are.

Also for better or worse, I pay for bundled Google storage + Gemini and YouTube separately, it's still worth it, even without free months or whatever. And still better than being in MS or Apple's ecosystem.

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> it's still worth it, even without free months or whatever

Until you go of the rails of their processes and have your account closed with no recourse.

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>I bought a Pixel phone. As per the sales terms, the phone came with one year of Gemini AI Pro service. Except, the redemption process to get the year of service didn't work for me. I contacted Google, they never fixed it or offered any solution. I simply didn't get the year of service I was promised.

I fixed this by deleting the subscription data for Google One (which also refunded me a prorated amount for my Google One plan), and then waiting a day.

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> I think Google has done some cool stuff, and I think in a lot of ways they're, at least historically, one of the less evil big tech players.

It's been a decade since Google broke their promise not to use information gleaned from your use of their services to sell ads.

> Google quietly erased that last privacy line in the sand — literally crossing out the lines in its privacy policy that promised to keep the two pots of data separate by default. In its place, Google substituted new language that says browsing habits “may be” combined with what the company learns from the use Gmail and other tools.

https://psmag.com/news/googles-broken-privacy-promise/

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It took me 13 years to get them to unban my adsense account. To this day I still have no idea what happened and have assumed it was a competitor sending fake clicks or something.
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Anyone have an idea whether it would be practical to go to small claims court? I'm curious if this is a path consumers can take if a corporation breaks an agreement?
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Depends on your jurisdiction, of course. (I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice, merely my impressions). In the UK this would likely be worth it if the injury is a specified financial amount. So for people who have paid for something and simply not got it, a small claims court is a good bet for getting a refund. A lot of the time however, the injury is in the consequences of relying on one of these companies services, and having it withdrawn without notice, as in the OP. Usually, you want service restored, as that is in fact the least costly action for both sides. But small claims courts (in the UK) do not make that kind of order. In theory you could sue for the financial consequences of the abrupt withdrawal, but I'd guess that's too complicated for a small claim.
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You'd have to go in the same jurisdiction as they're incorporated. I think (IANAL).
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I think a service chasing google around in courts for disputes would do quite well.
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Same. Purchased Pixel 9 Pro XL, didn't get my year of Gemini or Google One, technical missuport couldn't be bothered circling between all the investigation steps I did and re-did already and tej "fixes" that have been verified ate not fixing anything.

"Support" agents couldn't be bothered - this feels like AI trapping me in the tarpit maze to save a few USD on the disk storage and infefence cost, effectively scamming me.

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Protonmail is the solution, or hosting your own email server but that one is more complex.
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unfortunately hosting your own email server is nearly impossible if you want reliable delivery. If you don't care about being put in the spam box then it can work.
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> ... my experience with trying to get them to sort out any kind of issue with their services makes me reluctant to spend any money with them.

When you pay for Google Workspace you are the client, not the customer and they do answer phone calls for support. The only two times my wife and I needed them for our SMEs, they picked up the phone and helped us resolve our issues. Super professional too. Haven't needed to give them a call in something like 8 years now.

Don't know about Pixel phone and Google One subscriptions but for SMEs Google Workspace is a godsend: it's incredibly cheap per employee and it's the way out of the Microsoft mediocrity. Everything only requires a browser, no matter the OS (wife works from Linux and now added a Mac Mini, for example): Windows can, at long last, get the middle finger in SMEs.

I'll forever be thankful to Google for allowing me to help many people get rid of Microsoft products, including Windows.

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> I contacted Google, they never fixed it or offered any solution. I simply didn't get the year of service I was promised.

Contract violation. The problem is it's simply too burdensome to go to small claims court.

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If you do, it's also possible they ban your personal account
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Sounds more like a question why there isn't a class action and deregulation push against them.

People really fail to unionize when they can just piss in the wind.

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