One of the other articles on HN's front page right now, is that Germany's implementation of eIDAS will require a Google or Apple account.
replyI genuinely feel like there is something happening where hackernews articles come in bunch/reference-to-each-other :]
replySo one of the comments on one hackernews post on front-page almost somehow always refer to something within a hackernews post on the same front-page. I have seen this witnessed too many times that it might be time to name this phenomenon.
We offer Login with Google and Login with Facebook on our apps. The fun part is both FB and Google started blocking Selenium and any other automated agents from logging in. So basically there's no way to run end to end tests that confirm the login flows using FB or Google, which have wrinkles that our normal login doesn't hit.
reply> We offer Login with Google and Login with Facebook on our apps.
replyThis has the nefarious side effect of allowing Google or Facebook to track people across the Internet and apps. Webmasters like you are, often for no imperative reason, complicit of this by providing such login options.
> Avoid places that only offer the "Login with Foo" if at all possible (looking at you Tailscale).
replyTailscale is the only serious company that I can ever recall offering /only/ third party login. It's bit bizarre on the face of it. Anyone know the reason?
Perhaps they are not a serious company after all?
replyI think I read somewhere (but could be wrong) that it was because they didn’t want to own any “authentication” services. Their infrastructure was zero trust (as in they don’t hold any passwords or private keys), just a discovery server for different devices.
replyIs Tailscale really a serious company?
replyCurious isn't it, especially as it's such a bad fit for their product - authenticating with GitHub in order to ssh made the whole thing so much more painful than it needed to be. I subsequently tried switching to using a passkey when that became an option, but it's not possible to make the passkey user the owner of a tailnet created by a GitHub org user, so I'm stuck with two users in my Tailscale and can't delete the GitHub org user. It's the main thing that keeps me looking for a reliable alternative to Tailscale.
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replyMy other annoyance lately is companies that don't let you set a password. It's either passkey only (which I'm not sold on, yet), or "we'll email you a login link". Great, now I have to wait for the email to show up, click the link, hope it doesn't expire if I get distracted while waiting, and then also delete your emails, sometimes multiple times a day?
replyWhat a shit tier authentication mechanism.
I despise this. Slack keeps doing this even though I have a password and 2FA configured.
replyTailscale offers custom SSO for free
replyShouldn't a service that may be the only way of remotely accessing your devices be ... independent of a 3rd party authentication service?
replyPasskey auth is also available as a first-class option.
replyTailscale is a modern Silicon Valley word for “I can’t configure Wireguard.”
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