If Apple products are so compelling why are so many devs using Electron, React Native and Flutter on macOS, to the point it deserved being mentioned at WWDC 2025 State of the Nation Keynote?
replyMy point was don't throw stones when having a big glass roof as well.
Apple isn't the perfection you make out to be, also has a rich history of failures, and only did not went bankrupt due to sheer luck of doing the right decision when there were not many remaining to take.
That's a different issue. Things like Electron are popular not because native development is buggy, but because most developers these days are web developers. They know Javascript. They've never written anything in C/C++ or even the slightly friendlier Swift, Rust, or Go. Electron lets people who only know the Web make desktop apps.
replyNope, it is the same issue now being worded around to sell the Apple is shiny story above.
reply> If Apple products are so compelling why are so many devs using Electron, React Native and Flutter on macOS
replyThat is not how the decision making for cross-platform works. You choose those alternatives knowing that they are crap in many respects, yet accept the trade offs because you want to save money on dev hours.
The whole point was the greatness of Apple platform.
replyThat’s not the point being argued either, nor it being perfect. It’s just about Apple’s UI frameworks being more coherent and consistent across all their own platforms, unlike Microsoft. Even Android developers who’ve done a bit of work on iOS easily agree that Apple’s SDKs are far better designed and behave more predictably than Google’s.
replyThey use React Native and Flutter because they want to target more than just MacOS/iOS
replyMeaning they don't worship Apple UIs as the ultimate design?
replyIt's about the tradeoff.
replyOption 1: spend double the effort, embrace Apple's UI
Option 2: do it once, ship faster, make more money.
Nobody in this thread is claiming Apple is perfect, just ahead of MS in UI consistency and _less_ buggy
reply"Ahead" with yes but attitude.
replyNone of the UI frameworks is perfect. Neither the ones from Microsoft, nor the ones from Apple, nor Qt, nor GTK (lol...), nor the web-based ones.
replyI'm just saying that in my personal opinion and experience, the ones from Apple have the best yay-to-wtf ratio. Your mileage may vary.