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Don’t forget doing only enough manual labour not to get hurt, killed or develop a chronic condition.

You can make a lot of money doing many skilled manual jobs in my country. Trades are highly paid and there is not enough supply. Better money than software development.

They often wreck their backs, or develop other chronic conditions. The successful ones stop doing manual work by the time they are in their 40s and move to running their own businesses employing 20 year olds.

A friend of mine just lost a family member a few weeks ago. He slipped on a roof.

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@teruakohatu Some example of manual labor well payed in your country? In Italy, sometime manual labors are more safe than others not manual jobs.

This is because often the rules and laws protects still human instead the profits.

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You don't have to @ their name here on HN, it doesn't work like Twitter. When you reply to them they'll see it already.
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Only if they go back through their threads.
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Or they use something like https://www.hnreplies.com/ which many do. In any case the @ doesn't work regardless, it does not ping anyone.
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Is this New Zealand? Don't all the software people migrate to Australia for better wages?
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@sdevonoes What do you do for work?

ps: Unfortunately I agree with you.

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