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One way to say this is "present company excluded" as when saying: culpability is general in the population, but not to accuse those you're speaking to.
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Like "us but not you"? That's mean.
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We already use this with "we", it's just not clear from the word if 'you' are included or not. Example: "We had eggs for breakfast".
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Not when you’re delivering an insult to everyone present.
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Yeah it iw called the exclusive form lol.

But if you think about it seems normal... "we went to the city" is not really mean.

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