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> "We're unable to serve this website without compromising your privacy... "

More accurately, "we do not have the staff or funds to figure out what every single random law around the globe requires of us, and since foreign countries are not a realistic advertising market for a local Michigan newspaper, there's really no reason for us to try."

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Well, you don't have to do any of that stuff if you either are upfront about selling user data and ask if it's OK, or if you just don't do that stuff at all.
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But to know that you would have to study the laws of other countries or in this case EU which costs money and in this case is not an obviously beneficial investment.
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they blocked a continent without seeking any advice?
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Why not? That continent is not their target audience.

It probably wasn't worth the effort to block foreign countries just from random unnecessary compute cost to serve a site to them, but when those countries start being serious about penalties you could face for serving their residents? Now it's justifiable to block non-US countries.

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the thing is "We don't want to get legal advice" is a ridiculous justification for acting on legal advice
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I'm sure they (or whoever sells the product they use to publish) did get legal advice, of the "what is the cheapest way to ensure this isn't an issue for us" and the response was "block 'em all, let God VPN them out."

After all, using a VPN doesn't absolve companies of the GDPR.

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Yes so the informed choice they made was "block gdpr countries" vs "be transparent about our use of personal data".

Every site that gdpr-blocks itself is saying that they intend to extract value from your data and they don't want to tell you how.

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No, it can also be saying "I simply have too many other things to do than worry about what the correct data retention or ban appeal or DSA statement of reasons requirement or DSA statement of reasons transparency DB API or UK Ofcom age verification requirements or..."

Sometimes if you're just one person and the EU isn't a core market and you are a small business or non-profit, it's easier to just say, ok you know what, no thanks to all this for now.

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The signal remains the same:

"Will you sell my data?"

"This interview is over. (I'm very busy.)"

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That's absurd. Are you, right now, compliant with all relevant laws and regulations in Turkmenistan? Do you have legal advice to back that up? Why not? Is it because you're a criminal?

No! Of course not! It's because you don't care about Turkmenistan, to the extent you've never even bothered to look up what is and is not legal there, let alone get legal advice about it. That's a perfectly fine answer. This random Michigan newspaper doesn't care about the EU. That's a perfectly fine answer too.

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Turkmen: "Will you sell my data?"

Me: "No."

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No Turkmen official will approach you to ask that question. You would need to anticipate what the important questions are to comply with Turkmenistan's laws (or hire somebody to figure this out).
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If complying with the GDPR was that easy an entire industry wouldn't be needed.

Use of AWS availability zones as it applies to Article 5?

https://gdpr-info.eu/chapter-5/

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It is that easy.
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It's pretty clear you're not a good faith interlocutor at this point.
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Refute me or shut up.
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European law imposes a great deal more obligations on a business than that. This claim is simplistic to the point of disingenuousness.
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Since obviously there is no "European law" in the first place, I think it's pretty safe to assume you have no idea what you're talking about.
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That would be rather surprising to the large number of law schools that teach European Law as a core subject, such as the Panthéon-Sorbonne (Droit européen), Bologna U (Diritto Europeo), and Humboldt U (Europarecht).

Equally surprised would be the authors of very many legal books and journals, e.g. https://www.cambridge.org/core/browse-subjects/law/european-...

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Interpol would like a word.
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> Interpol would like a word.

Also not a "European law" by any measure or understanding, that's a international organization that does police cooperation across the continent (and further), it isn't even a law enforcement agency... Not exactly sure how you could confuse that with laws, but here we are.

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If your site is covered by GDPR and you do not have a physical presence in the EU you have to appoint someone in the EU to receive mail on your behalf, so people who want to make GDPR requests by mail can write to them. See Article 27.

There are services that will do this for you. Last I checked they were typically in the neighborhood of a couple hundred Euros a year.

Whether or not GDPR applies to a site not in the EU is somewhat subjective. It comes down to whether you envisaged serving people in the EU.

If your site does not need EU visitors it can make some sense to block them. That provides evidence that you did not envisage serving people in the EU, and then you don't have to figure out if you need to be hiring a service in the EU to receive GDPR mail.

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>since foreign countries are not a realistic advertising market for a local Michigan newspaper

This may be true for in house ads, but there are ad networks that already are able to personalize ads and have ad inventory for such foreign countries.

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What does GDPR get you that browser settings and an extension don't? I'm genuinely curious how random websites refusing to serve content / spamming cookie banners is a good thing?

The data download and removal side of GDPR seems useful for more "entrenched" use cases where you have an account and a long history on a service but... fly-by website visits should not be this heavily regulated. Blocking cookies and scripts is trivial.

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I should not need extensions for a business to respect my privacy. It's as simple as that.

If you look at it through an equity angle, needing extensions relegates the negative effects to those that are already not "well off" — the technologically illiterate who don't know what to do or know someone who does.

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So someone's refusal to make a couple clicks to install an extension necessitates: 1) millions of users having to click to get the annoying popup off their screen, 2) installing an extension to block those anyway, and 3) a more fractured internet where website operators outright refuse to serve content because of liability? I'd bet a very large sum of money that the technologically illiterate don't read anything on those popups and click "Accept all cookies"
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How does someone's refusal to install an extension necessitate millions of users having to close the popup? I guess you mean someone as in "vast majority of population"?
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Why is the government making efforts to increase technological literacy not an option?
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A proper course in technological literacy would also necessarily include the fact that browser extensions are quite possibly not safe.
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> I'm genuinely curious how random websites refusing to serve content / spamming cookie banners is a good thing?

They refuse to allow visitors to visit their website without taking, processing and selling their data and letting those visitors know that this is happening. That they outright block me instead of doing those anyways, clearly is a good thing and in my benefit.

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There's also your IP address. No browser setting or extension is going to hide it. There are of course VPNs and proxies, but they're different things.
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Or "we don't care about respecting stupid laws in your country. If you don't like being blocked, take the issue to your politicians."
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But that's the thing, making them outright say "we don't care about respecting stupid laws in your country" (which for us means "we need to continue to be able to sell user data without notifying we do this") is not an "issue", that's the whole benefit of it in the first place.

Anyways, it sounds like a win-win here, they get to not care, and we get to be rejected with clear reasons why, so again, benefits all around.

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It's illegal for us to steal from you, so we won't invite you inside.
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Right... as if can trust some random American or other non-European website that it really respects the law. What are you gonna do if it breaks the GDPR law? GDPR ruined the Internet.
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I'd argue greedy capitalists ruined it. They were also the cause of GDPR
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They also built it out.
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