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My question is why normal people let the insane people have so much influence?

We don’t actually have to be nice to people just because they’re slightly upset. Every time they get what they want, it emboldens them.

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by Izkata19 hours ago|

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It's a mix of a few things, the most important and easily missed nowadays is this particular thing happened when the extreme left was in near total control of the culture war. Some people didn't push back out of fear they'd be doxxed, their employers contacted, and lose their job (fear of being called racist or pro-slavery). Others thought it was so small it didn't matter. Others did it to just shut up the people piling on. Most normal people at this point hadn't even heard of the culture war, so trying to explain anything made you sound like a crazy conspiracy theorist, so still others just didn't want the hit to their reputation.

by rurp1 days ago|

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You need to add all of the real world breakage to scripts and tutorials on the right side of that ledger. Plus the negative effects of virtue signaling undermining efforts at substantive change.

Also, are we supposed to ban the word master from all of it's dozens of normal English use-cases? I never got a clear answer on why git branch names were so much more harmful than someone mastering a skill or making a master record.

by seanw4441 days ago|

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I suggest we all boycott Mastercard until they rename to Maincard. I simply cannot bring myself to generate revenue for a company so bigoted they'd use such an egregious name.

by moduspol1 days ago|

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And somehow academia, the most enlightened among us, kept their master's degrees.

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Somehow, "primary degree" really doesn't have the same ring to it.

by Gagarin19171 days ago|

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It’s just happened to be the intersection where an large amount of Internet crusaders exist AND where the non-crusaders are most likely to lay down and accept whatever the impassioned people want.

by rurp1 days ago|

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This seems right to me. I thought the switch was dumb when my employer instituted it, but certainly didn't care enough to start a fight over such an emotional topic. I just burned the time to update some broken scripts and then moved on with my week.

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Can you name any person who publicly registered any form of annoyance reading the old name, prior to the movement to replace the name?

Can you cite any person, before, during or after, who gave a valid, coherent argument as to why the old name should annoy anyone? (Or are you willing to attempt one yourself?)

Note: the two arguments I am familiar with boil down to "it could be understood as describing a bad historical event, and ipso facto must not be uttered", and "if I am annoyed by something then that is inherently valid and you lack standing to question me, on account of my identity characteristics". I don't accept either of these as valid, for hopefully obvious reasons.

(And in fact, I can't recall actually ever seeing the second argument deployed honestly. I can only recall seeing people not of the relevant identity characteristics presuming that they were defending people who would feel that way.)

by SkyeCA1 days ago|

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It was preformative nonsense that caused (and still causes!) more hassle than it was worth

by lnenad2 days ago|

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I mean, if you were to do that, I'd wager more people are annoyed with the change than were annoyed with the original name. So no, it was a negative direction overall.

by stronglikedan2 days ago|

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nope. to this day, it's still fucks people up and causes mistakes. it was stupid then, and it's still just as stupid. virtue signalling is always fucking stupid, and sometimes, like in this case, is flat out egregious

by smrtinsert1 days ago|

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At some point virtue signaling is fixing symptoms of the problem. Always had a problem with master slave terminology happy to see it gone.

by anonymars1 days ago|

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You'll be happy to know in the context of a "master branch" it never had any connotation to slavery, except in the minds of people who see everything as a question of race*

Anyway I'm off to listen to the 50th anniversary Dark Side of the Moon remaster. Wait, is "dark" an okay word? I didn't get a master's degree in English

* Parallel ATA on the other hand, yeah, yikes

by JumpCrisscross1 days ago|

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> virtue signaling is fixing symptoms of the problem

It diminishes the seriousness of the entire anti-racism movement by making it look petty, out of touch and more interested in creating nuisances than solving real problems. The San Francisco school board got fired for doing similar nonsense during COVID, renaming schools and thus showing they weren’t serious people.

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> by making it look

I have yet to see a good reason to believe that it isn't actually the case.